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Residential locks

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Re: Residential locks

Postby bobhdus » 10 Jun 2011 11:28

True.
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Re: Residential locks

Postby globallockytoo » 13 Jun 2011 2:15

bobhdus wrote:Just talked to my Locksmith Vendor and besides Bilock, Arrow and the others mentioned above, for the price, he highly recommended Masters Residential grade 2 Locksets that are supposed to be Bump and pick resistant (not full proof of course). They call it the Night Watch deadbolt. It will not open from the outside even with a key if the inside latch is pulled out. The price for either the handle lockset or the deadbolt was roughly $10. These aren't heavy duty but for the price and availability it's better than the big box stores.


I disagree about the Master. I had 4 to pick the other day and they were all relatively easy to pick.

If money is an issue and you still want new, there is always Baron products.
They copy all the mainstream stuff too. Some standard knobsets as low as $10.
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Re: Residential locks

Postby manualf150 » 20 Jun 2011 22:25

I'd recommend getting SFIC locks or going with Schlage commercial handlesets with SC4 6 PIN cores...
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Re: Residential locks

Postby Northwest1 » 21 Jun 2011 17:01

Im surprised they dont use Mortice Lever locks in the USA. In my mind they are the best and most simplest type of lock.
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Re: Residential locks

Postby globallockytoo » 22 Jun 2011 11:32

manualf150 wrote:I'd recommend getting SFIC locks or going with Schlage commercial handlesets with SC4 6 PIN cores...



These products were designed for commercial use. Sure you can use them in a residential setting, but they are not designed for that purpose and are sometimes an overkill in price.

The reason the residential market is so varied and competitively priced is because people would rather spend $250 on a pair of shoes every 6 months than on a door lock to keep you shoes from getting stolen.
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Re: Residential locks

Postby bobhdus » 29 Jun 2011 11:37

globallockytoo wrote:
bobhdus wrote:Just talked to my Locksmith Vendor and besides Bilock, Arrow and the others mentioned above, for the price, he highly recommended Masters Residential grade 2 Locksets that are supposed to be Bump and pick resistant (not full proof of course). They call it the Night Watch deadbolt. It will not open from the outside even with a key if the inside latch is pulled out. The price for either the handle lockset or the deadbolt was roughly $10. These aren't heavy duty but for the price and availability it's better than the big box stores.


I disagree about the Master. I had 4 to pick the other day and they were all relatively easy to pick.

If money is an issue and you still want new, there is always Baron products.
They copy all the mainstream stuff too. Some standard knobsets as low as $10.


So you were able to open the Master "Nightwatch" version? I have not had the opportunity to play with one, but I was under the assumption that a key or a pick would not be able to enter the keyway all the way to engage the tumblers if the inside Nightwatch thumb turn was pulled out from the inside of the building. You must also be on the "inside" of the premises to operate the "Nightwatch" feature. Most people that I know lock their deadbolts from the inside and exit their premises through the automatic garage door. If it was pulled out, they would not be able to use their own key from the outside of the "Nightwatch" if their garage door opener stopped working. If it was not pulled but still in the locked position it would work like any other deadbolt or lock. It also is important that any bump/ pick proof lock is installed correctly to avoid bolt or latch "loiding". Like I said, I have not played with one, but if they are that easy to disable, I will avoid them. I will also check out the Baron stuff. Thanks!
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