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Quick Question

Postby SpitZenFabrikat » 30 Sep 2004 8:39

I am new to this to say the least...only been at it a couple of days, but I've been able to open 3/4 of the locks I've encountered so far.

However, there is one particular deadbbolt that is giving me trouble and it seems like an odd thing to happen....I put tension on my wrench and seem to pick all the pins (it has at least seven) but it still won't turn....After mucking around for a while I played with the key for it for a little bit to see if that would help...I found out with the key that if I put the key halfway in the lock, then put slight tortion on the key(and therefore the cylinder) then put the key in all the way, it won't budge, but then I release the pressure on the key and then it'll turn fine, after a slight clicking noise. The same went for my car ignition....I dunno if this is normal or it's just a matter of too much/too little tension...

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated...

BTW: The brand of the lock is BEST

Thanks,
Dan
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Postby Romstar » 30 Sep 2004 8:58

Your lock most likely only has six pin stacks.

Just do a search for BEST on here, and you will find the solution to your mystery.

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Postby SpitZenFabrikat » 30 Sep 2004 9:59

I searched the site for 'best' and came up with no results...obviously doing something wrong...

Is it possible that the pins are mushroom or spool-shaped.....I hadn't thought of this before but now it seems to make more sense...

Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,
Dan
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Postby Romstar » 30 Sep 2004 10:17

There are probably some security pins in there, but there is something else to consider as well.

You said this is a deadbolt, and that leads me to believe it's an interchangable core.

If it is, that means there are at least two shearlines, and if it was ever master keyed, that means there are three or more shear lines.

Normally, that would make it easier to pick, but not so in this case.

The other problem with the shearline between the control key, and the regular key(s) is the control sleeve. You may have all the pins at the sear line, but are all the pins at the CORRECT shear line?

If you have some set for the control key shear line, the lock won't unlock, as some of them are being blocked by the control sleeve.

It's a pain in the rear, and one of the best things to do is to pick the control key, and simply remove the core.

There are IC core tension tools that will assist in doing this.

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Postby SpitZenFabrikat » 30 Sep 2004 10:29

Thank you much Romstar....


looks like i'll have a days work ahead of me :D :shock:

oh well...something to do when i'm bored I suppose


Thanks again,
Great site

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