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[N00B] Masterlock 140

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[N00B] Masterlock 140

Postby soundofsilenc3 » 12 Sep 2012 21:41

Hey guys,

So here's the scoop. I'm new on the boards here. Thrilled to have access to such a high level of useful and detailed information about the art of lock picking. I decided to fiddle around with this hobby for my own personal enlightenment and furthering creativity.

So far, I've watched a few tutorials on Youtube and picked up a copy of the "MIT Lockpicking Guide' which I'm using in conjunction with all the information available online to hopefully be able to pick my first lock.

As for my locks. I've picked up a Masterlock 140. I don't have any 'tools' as of yet. I'm stuck with paperclips/bobbypins/allen keys at the moment. From my research on this particular lock so far, I've determined it has 4 pins. It does have security pins and normal pins. I'm not sure if there is serrated pins present although I suspect there may be.

The videos online make it honestly look all to easy. There are people who can pick this thing with a simple paper clip, pin by pin, in a matter of seconds yet I can't seem to feel the lock out properly past setting the first pin, to get all the others to rise pin by pin. By just looking into the keyhole, I can see what looks like a spool pin the second position. I can't bind this pin or raise it, even if I've set the first one, and adjust tension. I'm able to feel the tension on the lock so I know my 'low-end' tools are working properly.

Any advice on this? On how to accomplish picking this lock? I've watched alot of tutorials and read countless articles. Some suggest the top mistakes of a newbie are always apply TOO MUCH pressure, easing up on the pressure to a feather light touch. Yet when I try to do this I still get no further ahead. It's almost feels like their is this 'resistance' when pressuring UP on the pins that is not allowing them to set at the sheer line. Regardless whether I ease tension to as light as air, anything past the first pin does not 'feel' as if it is rising. And considering I can't seen whats going on inside this lock I can only go by the 'sensation' and feedback I receive whilst in the process of picking. But then again, going back to the YouTube videos, these guys seem to be in and out of this thing within seconds, with no more than the most simplistic of tools and no hint of even the slightest issue.

From reading the MIT manual, they suggest focusing solely on the 'tip' of your pick and not necessarily your 'hand' or 'wrist' pressure on the pick. Not focusing on 'pushing the pick' with force from your wrist, but completely on the independent tip of the pick gliding up against the pins. I've tried may ways of analyzing this whole process and still am encountering difficulty with this lock.

As a final note, I actually attempted with a smaller sized 'luggage lock' type master lock. It was indeed a branded master. I think it was a 3 pin or maybe a 2 because of its size. I had an allan key and a paperclip. And somehow I got this lock to open. Then I tried to do it again. And one of the pins popped out of the top and I broke the lock. So as for my gaining 'experience' to help make my next endeavor less challenging. I can't say I quite benefited there even having done it once successfully. Bloody Youtube video made it seem like if you can just successfully do ONE lock the next lock gets easier. And yet this master 140 is absolutely just laying it into me right now.

Any thoughts? Thanks guys.
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Re: [N00B] Masterlock 140

Postby MortimerDuke » 12 Sep 2012 22:21

Get a different lock. While not an especially difficult lock, the 140 is tricky for a beginner because it has at least one spool pin, it is small, and it requires very light tension to pick, among other things. Get a Master lock that has no security pins, such as a No. 3 or 5.
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Re: [N00B] Masterlock 140

Postby soundofsilenc3 » 12 Sep 2012 22:42

Your probably right. These security pins definitely aren't making things any easier. Moreover my toolset is not particularly suiting my purposes flawlessly. But I figure if the people on Youtube can do it then why can't I.

The lock I picked the first time and broke the second time was a Masterlock #2. I highly doubt there were any security pins in that one.
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