where to find 5 pin cylinder with removable pins

[simon23]

the beginner lesson tells you to get a 5 pin cylinger that you can take apart and remove the pins. it recommends schlage but another guy asked the question and people were recommending kwikset or something like that. anyways, i dont care so much what the brand is, but I need to be able to take it apart and remove the pins like the lesson says.

can someone post a link to some that will work. I just need to know what to look for.

[Teddy Picker]

The pins are removable in any pin tumbler lock, if you understand how the lock works. The reason people recommend Kwikset for beginners is that it's easy to pick, but if you're re-pinning down to one pin, I don't think it matters much between Kwikset and Schlage.

That said, you may want to invest in [url=learnlockpicking.com/]Ultimate[/url] or EZ Rekey practice lock. These locks come with a variety of pins and springs and are designed to be re-pinned easily. As you gain skill, you can add more pins and security pins so that the lock becomes harder and harder to pick. This kind of practice aid will continue giving you value for a long time (or so I've heard -- I'm a beginner myself).

[Teddy Picker]

Argh, url in my previous post broke. Any chance a moderator could edit to fix it?

[simon23]

is there a guide on how to remove the lock from the knob or deadbolt and then remove pins.

[Teddy Picker]

There may be, but an exact disassembly is probably going to depend on what specific lock you have. You're better off watching something like this and then trying to identify the parts in your lock that correspond to parts in the video. If you really understand how your lock works, it should be relatively clear how to remove pins. And understanding how your lock works is really fundamental to being able to pick it.

This isn't actually as difficult as it sounds. I disassembled my first lock on my first try without instructions (or even tools). Two mistakes to avoid, though:

1. If all you want is to remove pin stacks, it's not necessary to remove the plug for any of the simpler locks I've seen. You can remove stacks this way, but it's going to be difficult to keep in the one(s) you want, and re-pinning will be even more difficult. It's much easier to remove the pin stacks from the spring side if you can.

2. Usually there's something over the spring side of the pin stacks holding them in. You'll probably want to remove this, but when you do, be careful! The springs are under pressure and will jump out. Either slide something (a finger, maybe) over the spring as you slide the cover off, or be prepared to catch the springs in a container of some sort. You don't want to be hunting around on the floor for tiny springs.

[Jedilocksmith]

Also, if you are just looking to get the cylinder out of the lock to take pins out and so forth for practice, pick up a deadbolt, schlage or kwikset. The cylinders are alot easier to get out of a deadbolt than a doorknob if you dont know what your doing. And I know some of the kwikset doorknobs call for a special tool.

My recommendation is to pick up a schlage deadbolt. Generally, the only thing holding the cylinder in is 1 screw. Plus, you might just score a spool pin or 2 or 3 or 4. ...same for the kwikset deadbolts but I highly doubt you'll get any spool pins.

Hope this helps, happy picking.