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BPG-10 Pick Gun Breaking Locks

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BPG-10 Pick Gun Breaking Locks

Postby connah » 15 Aug 2013 9:41

Hi all! This is my first post here and I believe I am following all the rules but please forgive me if I've overlooked anything.

I recently purchased the BPG-10 Pick Gun from Brockhage. They have provided excellent customer service and are helping me with this issue now but I'd like input from you guys. After opening a few Master padlocks and doors in my home with the pick gun, I noticed the locks started breaking in very short order. The driver pins were failing to spring back up to their original position and remained at the bottom of the Bible. The lock would only work if turned upside down so that gravity could bring them back up. I Dremeled open two of the broken Master locks, both of which have been purchased very recently. I found the driver springs to be grossly deformed which can be seen in the photo below. I replaced the springs in the cylinder with brand new ones from another Master lock of the same model. I clicked the pick gun in the lock 20 times at which point it stopped working. I opened the bible up and found the brand new springs to be deformed like the rest after only 20 clicks. I *AM* using the lowest tension setting on the wheel on the gun. I repeated this test through 3 more locks all with the same results. New springs deformed and the lock broken within 20 clicks. Please note that ALL of the springs were deformed, not just one and I am holding the pick gun level and off the wards.

Has anyone else experienced any similar issues? Any advice? Brockhage has asked me to return the pick gun to them so they can take a look at it which I am going to do. I'm just interested to know if anyone has experienced the same. We all know that picking can break locks but after only 20 clicks of a pick gun on multiple brand new locks? Weird...

Thank you!

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Re: BPG-10 Pick Gun Breaking Locks

Postby spoonzor » 15 Aug 2013 10:57

i'm not a big fan of lockpick guns, if you want to use that technique a bump key would be less destructive. You can't hold a bump key to high/low in the lock and actually in my experience a bumpkey with rubber o-ring works much easier that this type of lockpick gun. I'm not sure what your intended use is, but as you notice you might not want to use this on a customers lock...

And all the fun is in single pin picking. (personal opinion)

I did however use/try this exact lockpick gun about 5 years ago. I used it for awhile on a number of practice locks and did not have similar problems, definitely not in 20 clicks. It does make sense that a lockpick gun wears out a lock pretty fast, but not that fast. Maybe the spring in this one is far to strong? Maybe the springs in the type of lock you are picking with it is just far to weak?

Edit: looking at the picture, looks like those springs are pretty shitty quality. Can't blame the gun for that. Did you try it on some better quality locks too? Any problems there?

It is however another great example on why not to pick locks in use and why real lock picking is so much more fun then brute forcing a lock.
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Re: BPG-10 Pick Gun Breaking Locks

Postby cledry » 17 Aug 2013 19:30

Pick guns can easily crush the springs as you have found out. Therefor I don't recommend nor use them, even though I own a couple.
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