Master #3

[kjb]

I started picking a few days ago and seem to be doing fairly well. I started on a quickset dead bolt where i could rearrange the pins and started at one and went up from there including the security pins. I am having some trouble with the security pins any tip would be appreciated, but my real question is about Master lock #3. everything ive read says it has no security pins and people on youtube just rake it and it opens. I for the life of me cant pick it I picked the lock to my back door and i cant pick this. Does anyone have any suggestiosn or maybe an idea if what I could be doing wrong. Thanks

[KPick]

You may need to practice a bit more on normal pins before you move onto security pins. Once you gained more knowledge and skill, then you could move onto security pins. You can bookmark this page so you can refer back to it once you jump into security pins(Bookmarking function CTRL+D on your keyboard).

You should go in the order as followed:

1. Normal Pins (Standard)
2. Spool
3. Mushroom
4. Serrated

This information was obtained from "http://lockpickernetwork.wikidot.com/security-pins"
This article was quoted for educational purposes. (ITALIC TEXT)

Credit for this information goes to the WikiDot Community !



By now you should be well on your way to being a proficient lock picker. If you have not yet gained a reasonable level of skill picking standard pin tumbler lock, please do not move onto this section. It is very important that you first learn to pick locks that do not contain security pins, and can claim proficiency with a wide variety of cylinders. Please be sure that you have repeated the previous exercise with a number of locks, and that you are fully comfortable with the process of applying tension, detecting the binding pin, lifting the pin to the shear line, and repeating the process until the lock is opened. It takes practice, so take your time. Once you are comfortable moving on, it is time to take a good look at security pins.

i. Spool pins

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Spool pins are among the most popular type of security pin you will find in common pin tumbler locks. In recent years it has become common for manufacturers to put them in even the cheapest of lock cylinders. Their sole purpose is to frustrate you, the lock picker. In common household deadbolts they can be a minor inconvenience to picking; in well made locks they can be quite challenging; in some dimple locks they can be devastating.

A spool pin has a smaller diameter along the center of the shaft than it does at the ends. See illus. (needed) to see a spool pin. Spool pins are exclusively used as driver pins, as their purpose is to get stuck at the shear line. Since the key pin should never cross the shear line, there is no point to using a spool pin as a key pin. Because of the design of a spool pin, when the upper ridge at the top of the spool pin crosses the shear line the plug is allowed to rotate quite significantly. This exaggerated rotation is the telltale sign of a spool pin. Once the plug has rotated (usually around 10°) the spool pin becomes trapped. The lower ridge of the spool pin will get stuck at the ledge of the shear line, not allowing the pin to be easily lifted.

Though it requires some patience and practice, this can often be overcome if you know how to handle it. Once you detect that the lock has just been trapped on a spool pin (again, you will know because of the exaggerated rotation of the plug) there are some specific actions that you can take to get the pin past the ledge and above the shear line. It can be a bit finicky, but with practice you will find that these pins rarely so much as slow you down in anything but the very well-manufactured locks.

To verify that you are in fact trapped on a spool pin, maintain light tension and begin to apply upward pressure on the pin stack – using somewhat more force than you would normally use. Pay careful attention to the feedback you are getting from the tension wrench. If you feel the plug fighting against you, as if trying to turn back, you will know that, indeed, you are stuck on a spool. To overcome this, simply (admittedly, not so simply at first) lighten up your tension, taking care not to lighten it so much that you begin dropping pins that have already been set, and apply some extra force to the pin stack. If all goes well, the ridge of the spool pin will clear the shear line and the pin will be set.

There are two common issues that arise while trying to set spool pins, and only a good measure of practice will help you to prevent these issues from occurring. The first, and most common, is that of un-setting – or dropping – already set pin stacks while trying to set the spool. This comes as a result of lightening up too much on your tension, or using so much force while pushing the spool pin past the shear line that you jostle other pins causing them to dislodge and drop back into the keyway.

The second, and equally frustrating occurrence is that of over-setting a the pin stack with the spool. Because of the extra force needed to push the spool past the ledge at the shear line, it is easy to push the key pin past the shear line as well and get it trapped there. Like any other time you have a pin stack false set high, you can sometimes fix this simply be reducing tension and allowing the pin to drop back, though you will likely drop other pins and have to start again.

Picking spool pins is something that many novices find frustrating. Once again, we can take a very simple and methodical approach to learning the technique. If you do not already have a selection of security pins, now would be the time to acquire them. Unfortunately, without salvaging pins from old locks, these can sometime be a little tricky to acquire if you are not a locksmith. Local locksmiths and locksmith supply shops will sometimes sell small quantities of security pins, though often not. Many locksmith suppliers will sell large quantities of security pins (a box of 250 or more) for a reasonable price.

Once you have acquired your assortment of security pins, we are ready to proceed with a practical exercise to help you develop the feel and skills needed to successfully pick spool pins. Re-pin your practice lock with all pin stacks installed. Insure that one (and only one) of these pins stacks has a spool pin. It is preferable that you install the spool pin somewhere in the middle of the binding order, so it will be neither the first, not the last to set. For our example, we will assume that the lock binds in the order 1-2-3-4-5 and you’ve installed the spool pin in position 3. Begin picking the lock as usual, but when you get to pin 3, pay special attention while lifting this pin stack. When the upper ridge of the spool clears the shear line you will feel the exaggerated rotation of the plug. Begin to follow the instructions listed above for defeating spool pins. It may take you several tries at first, so be patient and diligent in your practice.

Once you have successfully mastered defeating this single spool pin, re-pin the lock by adding an additional spool in whichever position you like. Repeat the process and move up to a third and fourth spool pin. Once complete, try the same exercise on another lock. If you follow this method closely you will be picking spool pins in no time.

ii. Mushroom pins

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Mushroom pins behave so much like spool pins that their mention will be brief. To see what a spool pin looks like, refer to illus. (needed). The only significant difference in the feel of picking spool pins is that the exaggerated rotation of the plug will often not be as abrupt. Since the mushroom pin has a tapered edge on one side, rather than the characteristic ridge of the spool pin, once the top of the mushroom pin clears the shear line the plug will ride down this taper rather than falling over the ridge. This makes for a less abrupt rotation, but the plug will still rotate in an exaggerated manner.

Picking a mushroom pin, you can employ all the same techniques as you would picking a spool pin.

iii. Serrated pins

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As shown in illus. (needed), serrated pins are very different from their security pin counterparts. Serrated pins come in both driver and key pin varieties – the serrated key pins only serving the purpose to trap an over-lifted pin above the shear line, especially when combined with a serrated driver pin. The purpose of a serrated pin is to prevent the natural sliding of the pin across the shear line that is observed as a result of the binding effect. Rather, when a serrated pin binds, each serration acts as a mini ridge that gets trapped at the shear line. When you’re not accustomed to them, they can be quite unsettling because they give you the feeling that a pin is set even though it is not. When lifting a serrated pin you will feel a similar click to that which you experience when setting a standard pin. This can lead you to believe that you have already set a pin and move on. Even more frustrating is that the rotation of the plug when setting into the ridge of a serrated pin can transfer the binding effect to another pin stack in the lock. If you believe the serrated pin to be set and move on to the next binding pin, no only will you be picking in vain for some time, when you discover the serrated pin and try and set it correctly, you will often reset any pin stack that you have set after it.

It’s not all bad, however. Serrated pins can actually be quite easy if you can recognize them, or know to expect them. Some locks, such as American brand locks, are known to utilize serrated pins. Knowing this can help you to be better prepared when you encounter a serrated pin. Expecting a serrated pin will make you less trusting of the telling click and slight rotation of the plug common to pin setting. Once a pin is set, applying additional lifting force while easing off the tension will give you a quick indicator of a serrated pin. If you feel the pin begin to grind as the ridges of the pin cross the shear line, you will have a solid reason to believe you are dealing with a serrated pin. Of course, it is easy to over-set either a standard pin or a serrated pin while performing this test. Practice will allow you to learn to detect and overcome serrated pins.

Going back to your practice lock, re-pin the lock to include a serrated driver pin. Repeat the earlier exercise, this time paying special attention to the serrated pin. Familiarize yourself with the feel of the gently grinding while the serrated pin crosses the shear line. Once you feel comfortable with your ability to recognize and deal with one serrated pin, try adding more – one at a time – until you can successfully pick your lock with all serrated driver pins. Then try the exercise again with a different lock.

[HerrMannelig]

I started picking a few days ago and seem to be doing fairly well. I started on a quickset dead bolt where i could rearrange the pins and started at one and went up from there including the security pins. I am having some trouble with the security pins any tip would be appreciated, but my real question is about Master lock #3. everything ive read says it has no security pins and people on youtube just rake it and it opens. I for the life of me cant pick it I picked the lock to my back door and i cant pick this. Does anyone have any suggestiosn or maybe an idea if what I could be doing wrong. Thanks

A lot of beginners have this problem. The issue usually seems to be (besides lack of experience) the spring on the cylinder. When you are applying tension, you have to apply enough to overcome the spring. So "light" tension is more force than with your Kwikset cylinder.

Also, you can try really heavy tension and feel the pins and work the tension down as needed.

After you get the hang of it (try different tension, trying varying it as you pick, try different picking methods, etc), you'll be doing it without thinking.

[kjb]

Thanks for the tips! I was able to pick my Master #3 i still need to practice on it, but my problem wasn't enough tension it was too much I realized I kept over setting the pins. Once i figured that out I was still having trouble, but I noticed the key could turn either direction so I tried the opposite of what I had been doing and it popped with one rake. Now im just working on finding the binding pin and going from there actually picking it rather than raking.

[HerrMannelig]

Thanks for the tips! I was able to pick my Master #3 i still need to practice on it, but my problem wasn't enough tension it was too much I realized I kept over setting the pins. Once i figured that out I was still having trouble, but I noticed the key could turn either direction so I tried the opposite of what I had been doing and it popped with one rake. Now im just working on finding the binding pin and going from there actually picking it rather than raking.

Too much tension makes it hard to raise pins. Raising pins too high is a common issue when starting. I did the same thing with a Master Lock like that when I started. Once I started lifting pins slowly, I was able to feel it better.

Picking is picking. Single Pin Picking and Raking are two different methods of picking, using the same principles.

[thelockpickkid]

On masterlocks, there always seems to be a hard direction to pick, and an easy one. I always start to pick the Masterlocks while applying pressure with my tension wrench clockwise, after a few tries if it doesn't open, I will switch and apply tension counter clockwise. Kwiksets and Schlages among other brands of residential and commercial locks will sometimes react this same way. Some locks will open either picked direction, but others won't unlock both ways, in that instance I always have a plug spinner handy and spin it to the unlocked position. I pick alot of Best locks and I usually get them to open by picking them the wrong direction and spinning them back to open. Hope this helps.