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identifying master ring cylinders.

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identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby nickmannnxx » 2 Feb 2015 18:17

Hello all! Are there any tried and true ways to identify master ring cylinders? I have just discovered these and they seem very interesting. Wouldn't mind adding one to my collection and someday picking it. I just wasnt sure if there were any external clues. Also, which companies manufacture these? I know corbin, corbin russwin, and prison lock such as rr brinks, folger adams. Am i missing any?
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Re: identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 Feb 2015 19:38

The Corbin master ring cylinders are larger than a standard mortise cylinder. They are quite an interesting way of master keying a lock. :)

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Re: identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby nickmannnxx » 2 Feb 2015 21:27

Gwiens2001 found a corbin on ebay that the seller says is 1 5/8 inch. Does that sound about right for one? I think the common sizes are 1" and 1 1/4"? I can post a picture of it here when I get a chance. I am correct in thinking that these are more secure than typical masterkeying? Sorry so many questions, these really interest me.
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Re: identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 Feb 2015 21:33

That does sound correct.

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Re: identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby globallockytoo » 2 Feb 2015 21:58

nickmannnxx wrote:Hello all! Are there any tried and true ways to identify master ring cylinders? I have just discovered these and they seem very interesting. Wouldn't mind adding one to my collection and someday picking it. I just wasnt sure if there were any external clues. Also, which companies manufacture these? I know corbin, corbin russwin, and prison lock such as rr brinks, folger adams. Am i missing any?


Do you mean larger diameter cylinders?

Or length - because most high security manufacturers will have "longer" cylinders available.
Also Schlage (i think) have a sectional cylinder that can be "adjusted" to the required length.
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Re: identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 Feb 2015 22:50

Diameter

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Re: identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby Squelchtone » 2 Feb 2015 23:07

GWiens2001 wrote:Diameter

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well you and I know that, but I think OP is actually seeing 1 inch or 1-1/4 and thinking that is diameter when those numbers sure sound like 5 and 6 pin cylinder lengths, while the typical mortise cylinder is what, like 1-1/8 diameter?

OP here is a sure fire way to find a master ring Corbin, look for their Jumbo cylinder format: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111589234153

if you look at the back of that cylinder on ebay, you can see the master ring behind the cam.

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Re: identifying master ring cylinders.

Postby nickmannnxx » 3 Feb 2015 0:19

Thanks squelchtone, thats the exact lock that I saw on ebay, I see what you mean about the master ring. I meant diameter. I assumed that master ring cyclinders had a larger diameter. I asked a few sellers if their locks were master ring and they didnt know. So i started asking about diameter. I recieved a two answers of 1" or 1 1/4", figured those were common diameters. I wasnt aware those would be length measurements, but Im glad to be better informed.
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