Binding pin order statistical analyses

[sentientsentinel]

Is anyone aware of any data on statistical binding order analyses? I am wondering if anyone is aware of any studies on this. In manufacturing it is a key concept to remove any variances from the manufacturing process in other words to make everything uniform. In keeping with this concept it seems to me if the binding order of a certain lock say a common lock like a Schlage was l analyzed this would reveal some pretty solid likely binding orders. So for instance if we checked the binding order on 100 specific brand locks I believe a pretty reliable and competent binding order could and should be ascertained. I believe a top of the key way and bottom of the key way tension should be separate studies but other then that I think some very competent data could be realized. Wherefore I am requesting from the brethren any and all data on the subject. This is a study the brethren could carry out on there own too. If you are an experienced lock picker with a respectable number of common American locks in your collection or have access to the same please let me know we could pool our research (binding orders) and come out with some pretty respectable statistical analyses.

That's all I got thanx.

[deolslyfox]

The only "analysis" I can offer is experience. Experience has taught me:

1. Every lock is different, including K/A series
2. Changing the pinning with a given lock, using the same pins will change the binding order.
3. Picking the lock "backwards" will change the binding order.
4. Standard pins will generally "set" before security pins.
5. Changing tension spots (BOK vs TOK) will sometimes change the binding order.
6. The experience of the picker will effect the order of selection of the "binders"

I believe that a lot of the data collected would have to do with the person collecting the data .... aka the picker. An experienced picker may select a binder that a less experienced may pass over as each polled the stack of the same lock, using identical tools and process. I can tell you unequivocally that I can pick out "binders" now that would have completely escaped me 15 years ago.

JMHO

Mark Twain is quoted as saying: "Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable ...."

Ernest Rutherford said: "if your experiment needs statistics, you need a better experiment ...."

[Danbot]

Seems to me that any such research would really just be chasing the wind. It is true in manufacturing that uniformity is a goal, but nothing can ever be perfect. That's why we have tolerances!

Say one machine is drilling the number two pin chamber a few 0.0001" out in one direction...then yes, perhaps those locks will have a common deviation that would cause them to bind in the same order. But only until they change the drill bit. Then everything changes! And a large company will certainly not be using just one machine to manufacture their product!

Interesting thought...but it probably hasn't been done due to a lack of practical value. Or...it has been done and did not yield any significant results?