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Is counter rotation a spool or could it be a standard too?

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Is counter rotation a spool or could it be a standard too?

Postby pillar » 25 Apr 2015 14:14

Hi.

I have a Abus 55/35 currently practicing SPP.
Now my binding order is 2-1-3

After 2-1 I have a deep fault set. When I press 3 down I feel counter rotation then after some counter rotation the lock suddenly pops open.

Question:
Is 3 a spool, purely based on the feeling of counter rotation? Or could it be a standard pin too?
The c. rotation is quite large, almost to the beginning where all pins would fall back. (Sometimes I loose the fault set)
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Re: Is counter rotation a spool or could it be a standard to

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 Apr 2015 14:23

Spool

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Re: Is counter rotation a spool or could it be a standard to

Postby pillar » 25 Apr 2015 14:31

Thanks.

Question about spools and raking:
If there is one or more spool present does that mean the lock is not rakeable?
Or could it be rakeable (not "is rakeable")?
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Re: Is counter rotation a spool or could it be a standard to

Postby Valdo » 25 Apr 2015 14:40

pillar wrote:Thanks.

Question about spools and raking:
If there is one or more spool present does that mean the lock is not rakeable?
Or could it be rakeable (not "is rakeable")?


Theoretically if there's more than one spool the lock is rakeable,
It will just be hard to rake as the most efficient technique to set spools is SPP,
but then again, it is possible to rake, it just demands uncanny raking skills.
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Re: Is counter rotation a spool or could it be a standard to

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 26 Apr 2015 13:37

although I dont do a lot of raking, it is a good technique to have and when working a lock with spool pins it can set the other pins and leaving the lock in a deep false set. Then you can SPP the spool pins and hope not to drop the other set pins.
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