Combination lock practice

[Balleduk]

Howdy folks!

im wondering if any good combination lockpicker could give me some pointers, ive serached around for these exact questions without any luck. should i buy every combination lock availlble and learn to decode those? would it be any point to get more the same of a kind lock to practice? and once master everyone i can get should i then start with safe locks?

[ltdbjd]

Combination locks and safe locks are two entirely different beasts. Working on one won't help with the other.

Just my opinion, but I wouldn't waste much money on padlocks. Once you get the math down, they are all pretty much the same.

[mseifert]

Yes, a Safe combo and combo padlock are not the same .. I have not wanted to throw a padlock through a windows in frustration

[kwoswalt99-]

Uhh... dudes.. some of them are.

[ltdbjd]

Point taken. For clarification, "real" safes, not Sentry. And "normal" padlocks, not S&G's.

[MiPo]

Well, I'm a fan of combination lock decoding. Why? Because it's fun
There are the simple ones like ABUS 145/20 with only true gates, then we have false gates like the ABUS 165/40, Burg Wächter 30/90 and others. Here you need to have more fineness than just applying the regular pull picking methods. The hardest standard lock with false gates is the Abus 145/40 (less prominent feedback when testing the gates). Then we have the category of locks where the feedback is disturbed by anti-pull-picking methods, like Tresor Chain Catena Combo 1385. I could only rarely get into this lock on good days. Then we have locks that are immune like the TOKOZ (https://youtu.be/Inhc3LUbhFA?t=165) as you cannot tension the locking mechanism. The latter goes in the direction of safe combination locks which are a totally different story
Decoding is like meditation for me - you need to enjoy it, else there is no means in practicing it.
If you're interested, I've a youtube playlist on this topic "Lock Picking - combination locks" https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... R6Te1n5M37

Cheers,
Michael