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[Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

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[Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

Postby Akil » 6 Jan 2018 11:30

New to the hobby; neither security consultant or "operator". I do, however, write fiction. Would like to get some feedback on the technical details of a scene.

A character's older brother taught her the basics of lock-picking. Which led me to take up the hobby, BTW. The book is Middle Grade age, Science Fiction Action Adventure. She, her friends, and that older brother are captured by space pirates and tossed into a "brig" that's a converted stateroom. They are handcuffed with low grade cuffs.

Older brother has several trick buttons on his jacket. One has a hidden pick and turning tool since low tech is often found in high tech places. The character breaks open the button and is able to free herself and the others.

Possible?
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Re: [Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

Postby Divinorum » 6 Jan 2018 13:43

Sort of. Handcuffs are not picked like standard pin and tumbler locks. Regular lock picks would not work and no turning tool is necessary. The most notable way to open handcuffs is by using a shim. A shim is a thin but sturdy piece of metal that is slipped down the area where the cuffs ratchet closed. The shim gets in between the teeth of the locking pawl and allows the the cuffs to open. This is not picking its bypassing. Picking handcuffs would be done with a bent piece of wire or paperclip and it's very difficult to do when they are "double Locked". I suggest checking out our handcuff area of the forum viewforum.php?f=39 and do some research on youtube about "picking" and bypassing handcuffs.
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Re: [Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

Postby MBI » 6 Jan 2018 15:06

Akil wrote:New to the hobby; neither security consultant or "operator". I do, however, write fiction. Would like to get some feedback on the technical details of a scene.

A character's older brother taught her the basics of lock-picking. Which led me to take up the hobby, BTW. The book is Middle Grade age, Science Fiction Action Adventure. She, her friends, and that older brother are captured by space pirates and tossed into a "brig" that's a converted stateroom. They are handcuffed with low grade cuffs.

Older brother has several trick buttons on his jacket. One has a hidden pick and turning tool since low tech is often found in high tech places. The character breaks open the button and is able to free herself and the others.

Possible?

To add to what Divinorum said, which is spot on, a button would have to be comically large (as buttons go) to fit even a compact lockpick and turning tool into it. Even some of the most compact picks I've seen, such as an original Bogota pick but modified to have a ring shaped handle, or some of the concealable picks sold by Serepick, would still be VERY conspicuous in something like a button.

In the scenario you describe, a button which simply incorporated a concealed handcuff key would be much more realistic, effective, and easy to use. In fact, there are already commercially made options for concealing hidden cuff keys in clothing, so incorporating one into a button would be pretty easy.

If your character NEEDS to have a lockpick concealed on him for other scenes and not just a handcuff key, it would make more sense to hide it in a belt buckle, wallet, necktie, behind a lapel, or inside a large seam in an area which isn't subject to bending.

Good luck, and once you publish this book please post the title/ISBN here so we can take a look.
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Re: [Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

Postby Jacob Morgan » 6 Jan 2018 16:50

Here is an example of a commercially available handcuff key that could be concealed in a large button: http://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/cuffkey.htm

Agree with everyone else that it would be very difficult to conceal lock picks in large buttons.
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Re: [Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

Postby Akil » 7 Jan 2018 15:41

Thanks! Good stuff to read.
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Re: [Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

Postby demux » 8 Jan 2018 10:13

Jacob Morgan wrote:Here is an example of a commercially available handcuff key that could be concealed in a large button: http://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/cuffkey.htm


Along similar lines, Sparrows makes a complete "Chaos Card" which includes the cuff key above, but could easily fit into a wallet as a whole kit. Being unsure what he might face, something like this might be a more complete option for the character to conceal somewhere (wallet, etc) and has a few extra tricks than just the cuff key.

https://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/ccard.htm
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Re: [Fiction] Hidden pick in large button?

Postby mattc » 12 Jan 2018 18:49

Perhaps something like this might be more in keeping with your character?
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