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How do you pick this Lock?

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How do you pick this Lock?

Postby hosa » 3 Jul 2019 9:49

Total newb here.
I am interested in how lock picking works theoretically and in concept. So I have a key which looks like the one you can see here: Image I don't know what do you call it in english (its my second language)

Its the one on the far upper right corner, to describe it, its straight and pointy shaped has 4 sets of different teeth 1 on each side (up,down left and right of the key).
The key goes into a circular hole. So that got me wondering how would you pick that lock?
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby femurat » 3 Jul 2019 10:27

Hello and welcome to the forum. You may want to look up warded locks topics.

Cheers :)
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby billdeserthills » 3 Jul 2019 15:48

hosa wrote:Total newb here.
I am interested in how lock picking works theoretically and in concept. So I have a key which looks like the one you can see here: Image I don't know what do you call it in english (its my second language)

Its the one on the far upper right corner, to describe it, its straight and pointy shaped has 4 sets of different teeth 1 on each side (up,down left and right of the key).
The key goes into a circular hole. So that got me wondering how would you pick that lock?



I counted 6 keys, but then I do adequately speak english, so there's that
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby Squelchtone » 3 Jul 2019 19:27

billdeserthills wrote:
hosa wrote:Total newb here.
I am interested in how lock picking works theoretically and in concept. So I have a key which looks like the one you can see here: Image I don't know what do you call it in english (its my second language)

Its the one on the far upper right corner, to describe it, its straight and pointy shaped has 4 sets of different teeth 1 on each side (up,down left and right of the key).
The key goes into a circular hole. So that got me wondering how would you pick that lock?



I counted 6 keys, but then I do adequately speak english, so there's that


reading his entire post gets you bonus points.
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby billdeserthills » 3 Jul 2019 21:09

Squelchtone wrote:
billdeserthills wrote:
hosa wrote:Total newb here.
I am interested in how lock picking works theoretically and in concept. So I have a key which looks like the one you can see here: Image I don't know what do you call it in english (its my second language)

Its the one on the far upper right corner, to describe it, its straight and pointy shaped has 4 sets of different teeth 1 on each side (up,down left and right of the key).
The key goes into a circular hole. So that got me wondering how would you pick that lock?



I counted 6 keys, but then I do adequately speak english, so there's that


reading his entire post gets you bonus points.



Sorry about that,
So it sounds like a 4-way key
Is now a good time to say we don't like to talk about picking locks on here?
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby femurat » 3 Jul 2019 23:58

I misinterpreted the key picture. It's not a warded lock.

Sorry :oops:
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby Squelchtone » 4 Jul 2019 11:11

femurat wrote:I misinterpreted the key picture. It's not a warded lock.

Sorry :oops:


i also thought it was a warded key, is it like a Papaiz cruciform??

wish hosa would post an actual photograph of the key or keyway, that drawing *is* difficult to follow.
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 4 Jul 2019 12:40

I have seen keys like that being warded and levers. There are even warded lever locks.

I agree - a picture would really help.

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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby hosa » 5 Jul 2019 11:05

Unfortunatly I don't have it on me now.
I also just remembered dealing with a padlock which I dont remember its common name. It was a cheap made in china one. Its the kind of lock that isnt mechanical, you couldn't remove the key when it was unlocked, Its key looked different but I cant describe it . I am also interested on finding out how you would pick that kind of lock.
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby Squelchtone » 5 Jul 2019 19:04

hosa wrote:Unfortunatly I don't have it on me now.
I also just remembered dealing with a padlock which I dont remember its common name. It was a cheap made in china one. Its the kind of lock that isnt mechanical, you couldn't remove the key when it was unlocked, Its key looked different but I cant describe it . I am also interested on finding out how you would pick that kind of lock.


we can not help you with such vague information. i hope you understand.
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby couillion » 8 Jul 2019 16:43

think cruciform, cross or Zeiss lock.

https://unitedlocksmith.net/blog/what-i ... iform-lock
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby hosa » 13 Jul 2019 8:03

couillion wrote:think cruciform, cross or Zeiss lock.

https://unitedlocksmith.net/blog/what-i ... iform-lock


Cruciform!
Thank you my dear sir.
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby hosa » 13 Jul 2019 16:58

hosa wrote:Unfortunatly I don't have it on me now.
I also just remembered dealing with a padlock which I dont remember its common name. It was a cheap made in china one. Its the kind of lock that isnt mechanical, you couldn't remove the key when it was unlocked, Its key looked different but I cant describe it . I am also interested on finding out how you would pick that kind of lock.


I found out by luck that, that lock I was dealing with was a disc tumbler lock (also called disc detainer lock). Currently researching how you would pick this thing.
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Re: How do you pick this Lock?

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Jul 2019 19:42

hosa wrote:
hosa wrote:Unfortunatly I don't have it on me now.
I also just remembered dealing with a padlock which I dont remember its common name. It was a cheap made in china one. Its the kind of lock that isnt mechanical, you couldn't remove the key when it was unlocked, Its key looked different but I cant describe it . I am also interested on finding out how you would pick that kind of lock.


I found out by luck that, that lock I was dealing with was a disc tumbler lock (also called disc detainer lock). Currently researching how you would pick this thing.


A disc tumbler lock and a disc detainer lock are not the same thing.

The key for a disc tumbler lock looks like a pin tumbler lock key. A disc detainer lock has different angles cut on the sides of the key.

Here are two kinds of disc detainer keys:

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And a key for a disc tumbler lock

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