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by CaptHook » 26 Dec 2019 18:23
petemoss wrote:CaptHook wrote:Again, you dont need pin grooves. You need to learn what you are doing, and practice it with whatever tools you have until it becomes natural.
While I will agree with you in principal. Tools do have a purpose. Can I turn a phillips head screw with a flat head screwdriver, yeah maybe. Can I open a paint can with a pocket knife, yeah maybe. Should I forgo the snap ring pliers because a thin pair of needle nose plies might get the ring off okay? I don't disagree with what you are getting at, but I totally do disagree with the use whatever you have sentiment. Do you use lock picks or just go with a bent paperclip because it is what you have on hand? I agree that anything is better than nothing, but suggesting that tools don't matter at all and it is only about skill is rather short sighted. I think forums like this are here to serve this purpose of education, otherwise we really don't contribute to helping each other very much. Thank you for your insight, and again I am not discounting your statement, I just don't feel that a "stop whining and get better" solution is always the correct one.
LOL You dont know what you dont know. But keep acting like you do, its amusing.
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by petemoss » 26 Dec 2019 18:56
CaptHook wrote:You dont know what you dont know.
Very true statement. CaptHook wrote:But keep acting like you do, its amusing.
I'm glad you are amused. If I can do that, then at least I am bringing something to the table, I suppose.
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by petemoss » 26 Dec 2019 19:13
@pemlock
Thanks for your reply and the information. Do you find that one of those is your preferred go to for most situations?
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by CaptHook » 26 Dec 2019 19:25
petemoss wrote:...I'm glad you are amused. If I can do that, then at least I am bringing something to the table, I suppose.
Not really.
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by GWiens2001 » 26 Dec 2019 20:01
OK, take it easy Cap’n Hook.
Gordon
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by pemlock » 27 Dec 2019 6:20
petemoss wrote:Thanks for your reply and the information. Do you find that one of those is your preferred go to for most situations?
Not really. I think the point I was trying to make was, don't expect one pair of tweezers to do it all. I didn't get all these for locks specifically (except the one from Sparrows). I dabble in other mechanical things as well, and grab whichever does the job at hand.
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by petemoss » 27 Dec 2019 10:48
pemlock wrote:Not really. I think the point I was trying to make was, don't expect one pair of tweezers to do it all. I didn't get all these for locks specifically (except the one from Sparrows). I dabble in other mechanical things as well, and grab whichever does the job at hand.
I got ya. Thanks again.
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by cledry » 6 Jan 2020 11:54
Look for a pair of cheap General 403 tweezers, then use your round file to make your own radius notch in the end. Leave the rounded part a bit rough. Works great. If you don't think you need a pin notch then you aren't keying hundreds of locks at a time or trying to bottom load the small drivers in a Sargent LFIC control lug.
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by petemoss » 6 Jan 2020 12:55
cledry wrote:Look for a pair of cheap General 403 tweezers, then use your round file to make your own radius notch in the end. Leave the rounded part a bit rough. Works great. If you don't think you need a pin notch then you aren't keying hundreds of locks at a time or trying to bottom load the small drivers in a Sargent LFIC control lug.
Good information Cledry. Thanks. I will give that a go.
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by jeffmoss26 » 6 Jan 2020 18:37
those are exactly what I posted above and use daily 
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by petemoss » 6 Jan 2020 18:52
Thanks Jeff. It sounds like y'alls great minds were thinking together.
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by Peter Martin » 10 Sep 2020 6:25
I like that folks have some really good options. This is my preference. No cutout for the pins, the serrated ends hold pins just fine... and the tweezers are pointy enough to poke the retaining pins in the back of Schlage/Weiser cylinder caps. Aven, 7" General Purpose, serrated tips. #18426  Pete
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by jeffmoss26 » 10 Sep 2020 17:32
it was bound to happen...was pinning away today when I noticed that one of the tips broke off my tweezers. https://i.imgur.com/8BwRYVA.jpg
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by 1d4 » 10 Sep 2020 23:49
I like the Sparrows tweezers best for 95% of tasks. But, as mentioned, they aren't ideal for smaller diameter pins, and I have a hard time using them to load standard diameter spool pins. I still use them to do spools all the time, it's just a little tricky.
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by cledry » 12 Sep 2020 15:47
I use an old pair of General brand tweezers that I filed a round notch in with the impressioning file about 30 years ago. I have tried all the fancy ones the new guys at work buy but mine seem to work better or at least as good as any of the ones that cost more. The trick is to not have the pin encircled completely, let the hollow follower hit the pin even if it is grasped in the tweezer. Also don't have a smooth finish on the part that grips the pin.
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