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idea?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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idea?

Postby Dr Money » 9 Dec 2004 5:58

ok, here is my idea, i swear, its much better then melted metal, stay with me here......

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Here is you basic lock, nothing new, but what happends if...........

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you split the hull into 2. the 2 hulls have to be turned at the same time to open the lock. If it were a padlock, the frontone could operate 1 latch while the other end of the hull would operate the other latch. But I think it would make it wicked hard to pick because you cant easilly get a tension tool to the back of the lock like that. Also if the front end of the hull is fully turned you cant get to the back end of the hull so you would have the problem of the pins re-setting as you pick at the other pins.

I hope i made myself clear
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Postby Romstar » 9 Dec 2004 6:53

Coments?

Yeah....

How are you connecting the front part of the plug to the rear part of the plug?

Once it's common enough, the first three pins are irrelevent. It's the rear two that need to be picked and turned.

So, How do you make the front part of the cylinder relevent?

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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 9 Dec 2004 7:04

where have i seen that before?
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Postby Dr Money » 9 Dec 2004 7:11

Romstar wrote:
How are you connecting the front part of the plug to the rear part of the plug?

So, How do you make the front part of the cylinder relevent?

Romstar


The front part and rear part arrent connected.

Im not sure how to make the front part relevent, im just assuming it is and it needs to be turned in order to open the lock, I am yet to figure out how that could be acomplished
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Postby skold » 9 Dec 2004 7:23

wicked hard to pick eh...you pick the first part and the cyliner falls out ..lol
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Postby Romstar » 9 Dec 2004 7:34

I'll give you a hint.

Use a retainer ring similar to those found on Euro profile cylinders.

Second, instead of simply using a normal pin tumbler system, utilize a sidebar system. This would mean that all parts of the plug would still have to be picked, because the sidebar extends past all seperate parts of the plug.

If you want to extend the issue, use a double sidebar system. In this application, you can actually use two types of sidebars.

Left side could use "finger" style pins similar to teh Assa V-10 or Twin lock, while the right side could use Medeco style twisted drivers. Utilizing both of these techniques maintains the relevence of the pin tumblers and their associated drivers while the side bars make sure that you have to deal will all parts of the divided plug.

Happy machining. :twisted:
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