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"Best" locks

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"Best" locks

Postby 99atlantic » 30 Jan 2005 2:36

Has anybody ever heard of "best" locks? A friend working in security gave me a few of them, said they were for really heavy-duty security. Havn't tried picking one yet, but I'd imagine so - they are all either 7 or 8 pin.....that's a lot of pins :o
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Postby pinky » 30 Jan 2005 3:01

excellent locks, you have a challenge on , but not totaly unbeatable
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Postby rayman452 » 30 Jan 2005 9:07

There is no such thing as an impossile lock as I've read from this forum. IT just takes time. Electronic locks in my opinion would be hard, since not only does it need to be picked, I dont know hwat you have to do to the electronics. Since most of them are battery powered, you cant cut the power, so you're pretty much screwed. Laser cut keys and retina scanners would probally be the best locks out there...
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Postby Stevo » 30 Jan 2005 9:25

Likely one with interchangable core and 7 pins:

If the lock has a center core that looks like the outline of an 8, this is the one:

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/

A tough lock for the beginner.
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best

Postby raimundo » 30 Jan 2005 10:55

best has been around for a long time, interchangable cores have always been their thing, but most of the old ones are 6 pin. they are found in large systems, like universities, and often the really large systems, will have the best logo along with a proprietary logo, but the common best keyways, Around here, UofM is one such system, and City of Minneapolis is another. These things always are part of some large masterkey system. tightly machined, they are often difficult to pick but sometimes surprisingly cooperative. There is a thin sleeve over the plug that controls the cylinder change, and the difficulty in picking probably comes from the fact that this affords two possible shear lines and thus works something like security pins. I have never seen mushroom or serrated pins in these locks.
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Postby quickpicks » 30 Jan 2005 19:05

Some of theese can be pretty easy to pick, but others seem like they are never going to open. Start out with medium tension and vigourous scrubbing and they should pop open after a while.
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Postby جا&am » 9 Feb 2005 21:49

quickpicks wrote:Some of theese can be pretty easy to pick, but others seem like they are never going to open. Start out with medium tension and vigourous scrubbing and they should pop open after a while.


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I just opened my room door in University of Montreal's residences using this method!!!! It took me about 20 seconds!!! Thank you!!
sorry for the nickname... if any admin wants to change it to 'jpdupere', go for it! i tried, unsuccesfully to use arabic characters...
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holding the best

Postby raimundo » 10 Feb 2005 11:07

If you have a best interchangeable core in hand, and want to pick it, do not clamp the lower part of the cylinder in a vise, if you must clamp one of these in a vise or other pressure holding tool, clamp only the top part of the lock and avoid also the piece that comes out and holds it into the other parts of the lock.
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