Should I make my own lockpicking set or buy it?

[Olcaytug]

Hi everyone
First sorry for my poor English, it is my third language.

Last week I wanted to enter somewhere that I can not due to a lock.
I didn't want to do anything wrong or illegal. I just needed to enter the room of my darling at the university to make a surprise for her. (I'm a student-assistant)

It is odd; but after I sat down and searched web about lockpicking, I wanted to pick locks more than I wanted to surprise my darling!

I thing it is a desire for power. Just like a martial-artist who learns to achive great power just to develop self-control. I want to be able to pick locks, but it is not for any bad purpose; just to know that I can not be stopped!

But now, I know that lockpicking is not so easy as on movies.

I need tools, and owning those tools is illegal in my country (Turkey). But I don't want to lose time by exercising with poor tools that I will make as a beginner.

I want to know if I order a tool set over the internet, will they arrive me or stopped at the port? Are every package checked at the ports? I really donot have much free time, please help me.

If it is possible for me to order such a set, could you reccomend a trusted e-shop where I can order such a set.

I think I won't be able to sleep a full-night's sleep until I pick my firt lock, so please help me. This became an obsession with me

Regards;
Olcaytug

[illusion]

hmm... "borrow" her key shortly?

I do not do martial arts for power and I don't pick locks for power - a crowbar holds more power in both instances.

so you want us to help you smuggle those tools into your country???



this must be a joke surely

[DrStu]

If lock picks are illegal in Turkey it looks like making your own is your only legal option. I am not going to recommend you try to sneak some picks by customs but, I have been to 23 different countries in the past 12 years and I have only been searched by customs 1 time. Although due to the nature of my job I tend to be able to cross borders with a lot less scrutiny than the average person.

[Olcaytug]

Noooo!
you totally misunderstood me
the power I'm talking about is not brutal force!
I'm just talking to have power over the locks. Not to have power over someone. And I do not do martial arts for power too. I do it to control power, to control myself, and the only way to this is to own power. It is something subtly different.

about smuggling;
Isn't it the same if I make my own lockpicks? Still I would own something illegal. I have never bought anything outside my country and I just wanted to learn if each package is controlled even if they are simple metal pieces. I didn't want anybody to do anything wrong.

And I'm not an idiot to do something illegal just for a hobby. And if I wanted to enter somewhere to do something wrong, I would try some more easy ways like bumping or breaking a window. I just explained my motive to make anyone who will help sure that I have no bad motive.

Actually I do not know the actual regulations in the law; but a local locksmith I talked to told me that I cannot own lockpicks.

And if I had burrowed her key, it wouldn't be a surprise!!!

Best Regards

[Omikron]

Well Olcaytug, first I must say, welcome to LP101!

Now, on to your questions...

First sorry for my poor English, it is my third language.

Don't worry, it's much better than some of the other posts on these forums; it's quite well written.

Last week I wanted to enter somewhere that I can not due to a lock.
I didn't want to do anything wrong or illegal. I just needed to enter the room of my darling at the university to make a surprise for her. (I'm a student-assistant)

Although your intentions were pure, it is still technically illegal and some would say, wrong. If you're not an authorized person that can operate that access door, and if you don't have a key, it's still breaking in. If you wanted to suprise your darling, you should ask the university for permission, and have them let you in. Don't be suprised or offended if they won't do so because it's a security issue.

It is odd; but after I sat down and searched web about lockpicking, I wanted to pick locks more than I wanted to surprise my darling!

Yes, you may have been bitten by the bug...and there's no cure!

I thing it is a desire for power. Just like a martial-artist who learns to achive great power just to develop self-control. I want to be able to pick locks, but it is not for any bad purpose; just to know that I can not be stopped!

You need to be careful with that "desire for power", as you say. Lockpicking isn't necessarily about power, and it is certainly not about learning self-control. Lockpicking is interesting because each lock is like its own little puzzle, a bit different from the next one. If you learn lockpicking with the idea that you have this great power, you are far more likely to overstep your boundries and abuse the skill. If you want to learn, then by all means, learn! However, don't treat it as this amazing power that lets you get passed anything and everything.

Lockpicking is a skill that takes a long time to refine, and will take many hours of practice. Make sure you prepare yourself for this, as you won't be able to pick any old lock even with the proper tools.

I need tools, and owning those tools is illegal in my country (Turkey). But I don't want to lose time by exercising with poor tools that I will make as a beginner.

Since owning these tools are illegal in your country you must already understand the consequences of what would happen if you got caught with them, let alone breaking into some place! DO NOT even THINK of learning this skill if you have any intention of picking a lock that you do not own. This INCLUDES any locks in your university, even if they are on your door. They own it, and you are breaking into their property.

I want to know if I order a tool set over the internet, will they arrive me or stopped at the port? Are every package checked at the ports? I really donot have much free time, please help me.

We are not familiar with all of the various import/export laws for each country. That is up to you to find out, and it's up to you to be safe. Furthermore, if you do not have much free time, you may not be able to learn properly, and you may just end up getting frustrated.

If it is possible for me to order such a set, could you reccomend a trusted e-shop where I can order such a set.

There are various sites that will ship internationally, but you must understand that if the package gets stopped at customs, the store is not responsible for it and you will not receive any refund. A few trusted sites are:

http://www.lockpicks.com/
http://www.lockpickshop.com/

I think I won't be able to sleep a full-night's sleep until I pick my firt lock, so please help me. This became an obsession with me

Be careful with how you proceed past this point. You don't want to get arrested for something stupid, ruin your life, and disappoint your darling!

Otherwise, good luck!

[Olcaytug]

If lock picks are illegal in Turkey it looks like making your own is your only legal option. I am not going to recommend you try to sneak some picks by customs but, I have been to 23 different countries in the past 12 years and I have only been searched by customs 1 time. Although due to the nature of my job I tend to be able to cross borders with a lot less scrutiny than the average person.

Thank you for the information, friend. I will make my own lockpicks now or later anyway. I just wanted to start practicing with some proffessional equipment to make learning easier. But now I'm not so sure...

[Omikron]

And I'm not an idiot to do something illegal just for a hobby. And if I wanted to enter somewhere to do something wrong, I would try some more easy ways like bumping or breaking a window. I just explained my motive to make anyone who will help sure that I have no bad motive.

Actually I do not know the actual regulations in the law; but a local locksmith I talked to told me that I cannot own lockpicks.

And if I had burrowed her key, it wouldn't be a surprise!!!

Instead of asking a locksmith, ask a lawyer. Many locksmiths will make up their own legal opinions to try and deter you. I would review the actual laws before deciding what to do.

I'm sure if you borrowed her key when she was not using it for a while, she wouldn't notice.

Furthermore, you could "accidentally" leave something in her office and ask her for the key to go back and get it. That's the easiest way!

[Shrub]

Customs wont check every package, just order them and keep them to yourself.

I agree buying them is just the same as making them if they are illegal.

Just order for the sake of the small price, what are they going to do? cut your hands off for doing it, oh right ok maybe they will over there

[Olcaytug]

Thank you "Omikron"

I think you are right; I shouldn't open any door.. And I owe you for your suggestions. I won't, in any case, break into somewhere I shouldn't.

I am an enthusiastic person who usually dreams and I think I was just talking about power owned by a hero not a burglar. But you are right, even thinking about using such a power is dangerous... Especially the feel of excitedment that comes with it. I won't use such a power on any door(just as I have never fought with anyone) unless my neighbor is left outside his house with his keys inside, asking for me to help .

And other than my talks about power, I still want to open locks, even if I won't use this skill. I just want to be able to open locks

[Olcaytug]

Customs wont check every package, just order them and keep them to yourself.

I agree buying them is just the same as making them if they are illegal.

Just order for the sake of the small price, what are they going to do? cut your hands off for doing it, oh right ok maybe they will over there

Thank you friend, I think I will check the laws for it. And I will think about ordering a set later.

And about cutting hands; It hasn't been done for the last two hundred years, I said Turkey, not Arabia. We were one of the first countries who gave women right to vote, and we are one of the oldest republic in Europe.

I owe every one of you for your answers

Regards

[Omikron]

TI won't use such a power on any door(just as I have never fought with anyone) unless my neighbor is left outside his house with his keys inside, asking for me to help .

And other than my talks about power, I still want to open locks, even if I won't use this skill. I just want to be able to open locks

Again, if lockpicks are illegal in your country, I would not tell anyone else about having them, let alone using them to get them in their house. I wouldn't do it even if lockpicks weren't illegal! It's just not a good idea to advertise the fact, unless you are a real locksmith. Otherwise, what happens when their stuff goes missing? Who are they going to accuse first? They're going to accuse you, and people won't trust you the same way again, even if you didn't do anything.

That being said, if you want to learn. the M.I.T. guide is excellent, and you should read it thoroughly and completely. You can find the guide here:

http://www.capricorn.org/~akira/home/lockpick/

I would also take some time to read THIS as it will walk you through the things you need to know.

So, get some free time, and start reading! Everything you need to know is there. Good luck, and be safe!

[Shrub]

And about cutting hands; It hasn't been done for the last two hundred years, I said Turkey, not Arabia. We were one of the first countries who gave women right to vote, and we are one of the oldest republic in Europe.

Dont worry mate it was just a poor joke, please dont take offense.

Good luck

[Olcaytug]

[quote="Omikron]

Again, if lockpicks are illegal in your country, I would not tell anyone else about having them, let alone using them to get them in their house. I wouldn't do it even if lockpicks weren't illegal! It's just not a good idea to advertise the fact, unless you are a real locksmith. Otherwise, what happens when their stuff goes missing? Who are they going to accuse first? They're going to accuse you, and people won't trust you the same way again, even if you didn't do anything.
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Thanks again friend

But it was a joke.. Even I'm not so enthusiastic to do that

Thank you for the links

Regards

[illusion]

Okay... i withdraw my comment I made at the beginning - I got the wrong end of the stick..

sorry for any offence caused.

[Olcaytug]

Okay... i withdraw my comment I made at the beginning - I got the wrong end of the stick..

sorry for any offence caused.

no problem. Actually you were mostly right, but used a little heart-breaking remarks.

thanks for thinking about me

thanks all of you