Where to get a Everest key blank ??

[Wade]

I recently got a Schlage Everest SFIC mortise lock and want to pick it. However, I need a key to make a tension wrench out of it (according to Matt Blaze). I dont know where I can get a key because it is a restricted key system. (you need the key to retract the check pin)

Any Ideas?

[eric343]

http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... ProdID=417

[Wade]

ahhh cool.
thanks bud, but do you know where I can get a blank? I want to make one myself

[eric343]

It's a restricted key system. The whole point is that you can't get blanks without the magic card / code / whatever

I suspect you can make a tool to lift the check pin quite easily; just file your standard street sweeper bristle down to the appropriate shape. Then use a standard torque tool.

[Wade]

It's a restricted key system. The whole point is that you can't get blanks without the magic card / code / whatever

I suspect you can make a tool to lift the check pin quite easily; just file your standard street sweeper bristle down to the appropriate shape. Then use a standard torque tool.

I guess you havent seen the key http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/everest/... just filing down a street sweeper bristle wont work with this key, im pretty sure. filing that "vertical ward" would be a killer

[devildog]

They come up on Ebay occasionally, and there's a few lockies here who probably wouldn't mind selling you a few.

[eric343]

It's a restricted key system. The whole point is that you can't get blanks without the magic card / code / whatever

I suspect you can make a tool to lift the check pin quite easily; just file your standard street sweeper bristle down to the appropriate shape. Then use a standard torque tool.

I guess you havent seen the key http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/everest/... just filing down a street sweeper bristle wont work with this key, im pretty sure. filing that "vertical ward" would be a killer

I own the Peterson Everest tools, so...
All you need to do is file a knife edge on the bristle so that you can insert it straight into the lock, to raise the check pin. Then use a normal torque tool.

[vector40]

The Everest patent, unless I am very much mistaken, has expired. You should be able to acquire the blanks without too much trouble.

[zeke79]

The check pin can simply be lifted with a short hook inserted sideways into the keyway (when the check pin is binding). I use a falle #3, but one could easily make a hook to do the same. A blank is simply not required to pick this lock.

[vector40]

Don't you need to lift it (and keep it lifted) BEFORE you start picking? Or can you pick the lock, then just pop up the pin and turn the plug -- assuming you know when it's picked without the feedback of the thing rotating of its own accord?

[zeke79]

Don't you need to lift it (and keep it lifted) BEFORE you start picking? Or can you pick the lock, then just pop up the pin and turn the plug -- assuming you know when it's picked without the feedback of the thing rotating of its own accord?

You can pick normally until the check pin binds. I have one everest cylinder that picks 3,6,4, checkpin, 2,1,5 tensioning clockwise. The check pin does not have to be lifted in order to pick until it is next in the bind order.

[raimundo]

you could just lift the checkpin with a toothpick if you need to improvise, and as far as making the type of tool described by matt blaze, you can make that of a used key as well as a blank, get a jewelers saw and learn how to support the workpiece in a benchpin and move the saw in perfect vertical motion, this will be a good skill to learn, if your the creative type.

[Wade]

Why would the checkpin need to be lifted anyway? It looks like it has to be retracted (lowered) for the plug to turn. How do you "retract" the checkpin by lifting it ?

[zeke79]

The pin is lifted. I have a cutaway sitting here on my desk that shows the operation.

[Wade]

so how does lifting it retract it?