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Cold Weather + Lockpicking

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Cold Weather + Lockpicking

Postby Exodus5000 » 15 Mar 2006 15:48

I'm sure some of the Americans above the Mason Dixon line, and definately the Canadians can help with this problem.

Does someone have a technical explanation for exactly why it is a standard 5 pin tumbler reacts more poorly to picking when the weather is cold as opposed to a warm indoor climate? They seem to get a "rusty" feeling to them, as well as not want to stay settled at the shear line. I'm sure it's made worse by the fact that your hands get cold picking as well.

Following that, what are some good solutions to this problem? I have a sneaking suspicion a little lock lube wouldn't hurt, but is there anything else?
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Postby bonez » 15 Mar 2006 15:55

not sure on a technical explanation!

but i for one hate to pick in the cold,fingers go numb
and you lose all fee back from the pick.

here's to the summer :D
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Postby bonez » 15 Mar 2006 15:56

oops
missed the d!

feed back :oops:
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Postby bembel » 15 Mar 2006 16:36

Temperature affects the viscosity of lubrification (the mixture of oil and dirt).
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Postby jamesphilhulk2 » 15 Mar 2006 17:01

why dont you use the anti-freeze spray for car locks it might work, but i have never tried it
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Postby bonez » 15 Mar 2006 17:06

what on your fingers :wink:

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Postby illusion » 15 Mar 2006 17:22

You can buy pocket hand warmers, they atre either disposable or reusable... the disposable ons you simply tug on each side and it creates a chemical reaction causing heat. They are pretty good if you go fishing on piers, and your hands are freezing. :)
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Postby jamesphilhulk2 » 15 Mar 2006 17:28

no on the locks, well i guess if your fingers were really cold then you could use them :P
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Postby Blink » 15 Mar 2006 17:37

I'm surprised no one has suggested thermite? (Maybe that's because it's only for advanced sections? :lol:)

That'll thaw that lock out in a jiffy, and warm your hands up too ;).
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Postby jamesphilhulk2 » 15 Mar 2006 18:08

and all u will see is molten brass all over the floor and ur fingers turned to ash good luck picking then
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 15 Mar 2006 18:21

brass is a good conductor
take a butane lighter or torch

don;t put the flame to close to the lock for 20 seconds or so

repeat as nessacery
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Postby Jason13 » 15 Mar 2006 20:23

Some times when fingers get a bit swety the handles become slipy so its hard to feel. Without handles it takes longer but still happens, i prefer To pick in a Coldish area Not that when i get a hard lock i go and stand in the rain for a hour i jsut prefer it :lol: :D Keeps hands from getting swety
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Postby SteveW » 15 Mar 2006 21:03

I think the real reason locks are harder to pick in the cold is due to the contraction of the moving parts. When they are cold everything shrinks a bit.

Different metals also contract at different rates.

Of course i may be wrong but that seems logical to me :)

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Postby bembel » 15 Mar 2006 22:58

SteveW wrote:Different metals also contract at different rates.

That's right, but the effects are rather small on this scale. See Thermal expansion of metals

P.S. For numb fingers, I recommend thin gloves. (thin cotton cloves, for example)
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Postby Exodus5000 » 16 Mar 2006 0:13

Of course you can count on a german for any engineering or technical information :wink:
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