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And what is the most secure?

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And what is the most secure?

Postby monicabelluccilover » 25 Oct 2007 19:28

HI all!

I´ve seen lots of videos about lock picking, now I feel very insecure in my home :D

I´m curious, with all this knowledge you have, could you advise me about what´s the most secure lock in the world? is there anyone?

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Postby josh0094 » 25 Oct 2007 21:11

the best be2 6 pin is a good one.
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Postby zeke79 » 25 Oct 2007 21:42

josh0094 wrote:the best be2 6 pin is a good one.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Uhhh nope.

Best security if you are in the us look into abloy protec, bilock, or medeco m3 .

If in europe look into evva mcs or 3ks.
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Postby josh0094 » 25 Oct 2007 22:17

sry. best locks ive ever seen tho....
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Postby dondel05 » 25 Oct 2007 22:34

HI!

My advice would be to check your home security needs. Is it an apartment or a house? Good locks are a start but most burglars do not take the time to pick or even bypass locks. Most will break a window or or something else that is fast and easy.
Maybe have an expert look at your place.

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Postby josh0094 » 25 Oct 2007 23:12

when my house got broken into they didnt even look at the looks. they simply kicked open the door.
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Postby MacGyver101 » 25 Oct 2007 23:20

zeke79 wrote:Best security if you are in the us look into abloy protec, bilock, or medeco m3 .


In terms of maximizing the "price versus manipulation-proof-for-the-average-thief" side of things, you might also consider a Schlage Everest. It is not a Protec, but it is probably far more secure than whatever your neighbours have on their doors -- and you certainly cannot buy a bump key for it on eBay. :)
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Postby josh0094 » 25 Oct 2007 23:22

MacGyver101 wrote:
zeke79 wrote:Best security if you are in the us .


and you certainly cannot buy a bump key for it on eBay. :)


Yes but sombody someware always has somthing that could get a lock to turn without a key. such as a bump key or anything else.
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Postby MacGyver101 » 25 Oct 2007 23:28

MacGyver101 wrote:. . . consider a Schlage Everest.


I'm sorry: it's been a long day. That was meant to read "Primus". :(
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Postby josh0094 » 25 Oct 2007 23:32

MacGyver101 wrote:
MacGyver101 wrote:. . . consider a Schlage Everest.


I'm sorry: it's been a long day. That was meant to read "Primus". :(


i was like everest... okay.. hes an expert makes more sence to me now
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high security locks

Postby raimundo » 26 Oct 2007 9:08

Before buying the most expensive pick proof lock, consider the day when the keys are lost or stolen and this impossible lock has to be drilled out.
As the first answer said, best is a very good brand of lock. however like primus, and some others, it may not be available in the retail trade, as it is made as part of a large institutional system such as hospitals or colleges, etc.
Also the person who recommeneded that you have a knowlegable person do a security survey on the home and make sure the door frames are very solid, and the door itself is solid core. then look for problems around the house that may be attractive to thieves. such as ladders stored outside or other things that aid climbing to upper floor windows. if you have a low roof accessible from the ground, you may want to plant some thorn bushs along there.
What you particulairly want to avoid is a lock that has a common key type and is susceptable to bumping. Most bumping can be avoided by chosing a keyway that is less common. For example, if you chose a schlage lock, do not get it at the superstore, as these will all be in the common keyway, but go to a locksmith and ask for a schlage E or F keyway, then it is unlikely that a thief will be equiped with that bumpkey.
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Postby hurri » 26 Oct 2007 9:15

"I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three." Elayne Boosler :lol: :P
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Postby zeke79 » 26 Oct 2007 11:08

If you want better security, you can do a system similar to mine. I put protec locks on all of my doors. I have a protec key in knob and deadbolt on all doors (most deadbolts are single cylinder but some are double cylinder. The double cylinder locks are not installed on my home, but on my detached shop since that meets life codes as it is not actually a dwelling). With the install of the locks, I reinforced the doors with security wraps and installed extra long strikes with 4" long screws to help prevent kick ins. Check out this article to show the effectiveness of reinforcing the door with wraps and installing high security strike plates http://www.thenationallocksmith.com/public.asp?2 . I then used a security lamination on the door windows to help prevent someone from busting the glass and turning the deadbolt thumbturn on the inside. Soon, all of my ground floor windows will have the security laminate. My second floor windows have no roof access to them so a ladder on the side of the house would be required to access these windows to break. Here soon, the upper floor windows will have the security laminate installed once I get another bundle of the film.

This is my first line of defense. My second line of defense will be a wired alarm system. I do not know which one yet but I am doing research as to what is the best and what the cost of the monitoring service is per month.

My home security is an ongoing process. After the remainder of the film is installed and the alarm system is put into place my wife wants some security cameras setup so we can see the side of the driveway and the parking area in front of the garage door along with being able to see the two back doors and the front door. I am just glad my wife is into securing our home as much as I am :P .

You can really make your home secure if you follow some simple steps.
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Postby josh0094 » 26 Oct 2007 20:12

have you been able to pick ur front door?
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Postby Jaakko » 27 Oct 2007 3:30

josh0094 wrote:have you been able to pick ur front door?

W don't pick our front doors as we are locksport hobbyist. If you on the other hand meant if zeke has picked his fron door, I can alread answer that: Nope, as he said that he has a Protec on it 8)
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