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by oldlock » 24 Oct 2004 7:54
Given how easy some makes / models are to pick, or are claimed to be easy to pick just what locks are used by users of this site to protect their homes, safes etc ?
I take these things seriously, so :
Home & workshop : Evva 3KS, double cylinder, deadlocking with raised security escutcheons PLUS - as a ' when I'm out lock ' Bramah MD27.
Safe S&G 8500 series, with live & passive relocker(s), thermal and glass triggers.
Paul
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by HeadHunterCEO » 24 Oct 2004 13:36
ultramax all around
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by hzatorsk » 26 Oct 2004 6:57
Primary: Titan Lock by Kwikset (seldom locked)
Secondary: Winchester 12 gauge
Third: A 160lb Newfoundland
Seriously!
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by oldlock » 26 Oct 2004 8:06
We have a canine guard as well, but she's useless ...
Paul
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by pinky » 26 Oct 2004 9:36
i use Iseo R11 scandanavian cylinders, these have 11 pins and side pins, they cant be snapped as have hardened bolts, i have 2 x chubb 3G135 locks on back door, and bramah on the fron as well.
my safe has both a chubb isolator key lock and chubb isolator combination lock fitted. side , top and front of safe, with 6 live relockers.
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by thertel » 26 Oct 2004 10:48
Pinky, what do you plan to do if you ever lose your keys? Sounds to me as if breaking a window is by far the easiest and cheepest way of getting back into your house.
I personally use two old schlage deadbolts on the front and back door, I am however in the process of switching the locks the chubb 3g114 mortise locks for the added security and the whole security through obscurity. Just praying I don't loose the key once I get them installed.
Thomas
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.
And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
~Friedrich Nietzsche
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by Varjeal » 26 Oct 2004 10:50
Because I live in a building owned by someone else, I don't have much choice for lock hardware, but I do have the following in concealed areas:
"By" the front door:
1. 27" Katana
2. Custom-modified softball bat (custom meaning handle sheared off to leave jagged end, tape wrapped handle, overall length 18")
3. Cold Steel Kobun Tanto
"By" the back door:
1. Several folders
2. 12" Custom bowie
3. 8" Custom dagger
4. 28" wooden bokken
"around"
-Lots of knives...everywhere.
In otherwords, next to the CS Voyageur I pack around, I can almost stand anywhere in the apartment and have at least one within 2ft at all times.
Of course, I got God on my side too which is the best of all. 
*insert witty comment here*
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by thertel » 26 Oct 2004 10:55
WOW, knife collector eh? That is a lot of knives, a lot of nice knives.
Thomas
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And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
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by mbell » 26 Oct 2004 10:59
thertel wrote:Pinky, what do you plan to do if you ever lose your keys?
Now that would really rattle my cage!  If I managed to get locked out of the house with all my tools locked inside and having to call a locksmith out.
On the other hand, since it's not my house and we just have standard ISEO Euro cylinders, I'd probably just borrow someone's grinder & make some tools.
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by Chucklz » 26 Oct 2004 11:53
I would assume Pinky would know the bittings to his locks, and would just have one of his friends cut him a key in a pinch.
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by Zoooooble » 26 Oct 2004 13:16
I hate to be the wet blanket on a high-security lock party here, but I must ask:
Those of you who have installed high-security locks on your outer doors... Does that really increase your security very much?
When it comes right down to it, theives are far less likely to pick your lock than to chuck a brick through a window or kick in (or crowbar) your doorframe. Unless you've got *every* method of entry in your house up to par with those high-end locks, it seems to me you're mostly paying for the "cool" factor of having nice locks.
Now, a high security lock on your safe, sure, that I agree with. (I picked up an S&G 8400 a little while back and really love playing with the mechanism; truly great stuff).
In short:
A $120 lock on a $35 door just doesn't do much... especially if it's next to an open window.

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by MrB » 26 Oct 2004 14:17
True true true about considering all access points. In Britain, it is common to have keyed locks on the windows; if someone breaks the window they still can't unlatch it, and jagged glass is a good deterrent to climbing through a broken but unopened window. For doors, the nightlatch should deadlock with a turn of the key on exit so it cannot be opened with the thumbturn. Burglars hate it if they cannot make a quick exit through the doors. Also, if you are paranoid, doors can be fitted with internal bolts that extend into the frame on all four sides with the turn of the key, which seriously resists kicking in.
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by pinky » 26 Oct 2004 14:23
im going to have to consider also a pressurised building , then maybe a minefield, along with the kids and wife, i wouldnt want to break in, now break out thats a thought.
on the locks, i have a pick for the locks fitted, and know the cuts , so it would be easy enough to get in, though have a spare set at the nick in case of emergency.
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by quickpicks » 26 Oct 2004 15:50
I have a Medeco lock on my room door, Abloy cams on all of my cabinets,
and American locks on everything else. not to mention suvailence eqipment, a prybar under my bed and in my closet.
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by toomush2drink » 26 Oct 2004 18:02
I see where your coming from zooble but you would need to get my doors open to remove my tv and the larger item. I dont think you can be too careful, its more likely that a thief will look at all your security fitted and rather try something easier. My van is secured up with extra deadlocks all round and not been touched (yet) but others in my street without extra locks have been.
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