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My new ASSA cutaway cylinder

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My new ASSA cutaway cylinder

Postby zeke79 » 3 Oct 2005 16:53

I have been working on milling some ASSA 6000 twin cutaway cylinders. I have come up with the following cylinder so far. This cylinder is still rough cut and unfinishd as I need to pick up a couple end mills to make the final cuts and do some small cleanup work. I would like to ask if there is any interest among the members to purchase a few of these since I am in the process of making a few. The cost would be about $95 plus shipping for a stainless mortise cylinder. When finished these will look like the assa 6000 cylinder in the cutaway aticle on toool's website.

Here is the rough cut picture I have now

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Postby ThE_MasteR » 3 Oct 2005 17:22

Nice job man !
What's so special about these cylinders ?
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Postby Ezer » 3 Oct 2005 17:34

Will the sidebar pins be visible?

ThE_MasteR wrote:Nice job man !
What's so special about these cylinders ?

http://www.toool.nl/cutaway1.pdf
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Postby zeke79 » 3 Oct 2005 17:42

Ezer,

yes the sidebar pins will be visible. I am waiting on a smaller end mill to make those cuts. The cylinder should end up being very similar to the one in the toool article. As I said, the one pictured is not finished yet, I just wanted to gauge interest before I setup for other types of locks when I am done doing the final cuts on an assa.
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Postby zeke79 » 3 Oct 2005 17:45

also as a sidenote, I have been thinking of making another cut on the opposite side of the cylinder to show the counter milling in the plug itself. This is a very neat feature of assa locks that is overlooked alot but is very frustrating when trying to pick the lock due to the special spool drivers. I am not real sure if I will be able to add this feature or not but it would be interesting if it could be done :) .
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Postby Ezer » 3 Oct 2005 17:52

I'm definitely interested, especially if you could show the other side. Are you planning on going on to other high security locks after this?
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Postby zeke79 » 3 Oct 2005 18:03

I am going to see if I can show the counter milling on the other side but it is not a promise. I may go on to other high security locks after this, it just depends on what I can get my hands on to work with. I figure I will atleast do a schlage primus for myself along with a medeco biaxial. It may become cost prohibitive to sell to others if I have to buy new locks to work with though.
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Postby n2oah » 3 Oct 2005 18:12

Nice. Now I need to post pictures of my Mul-t-Lock cutaway in rebuttle. :wink:
Except that I don't have any fancy mills. :cry:
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Postby Ezer » 3 Oct 2005 18:26

I bought these two on Ebay last week, but I'm still waiting for them to arrive.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Ezer/mult.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Ezer/primus.jpg
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Postby zeke79 » 3 Oct 2005 19:14

here is another cutaway I have done of an abloy classic. It still needs a small amount of work also, I am waiting on the end mill I need for this one too.

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Postby digital_blue » 3 Oct 2005 19:20

Ezer wrote:I bought these two on Ebay last week, but I'm still waiting for them to arrive.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Ezer/mult.jpg


So YOU'RE the one! I was watching that but it got up too high for my liking. :)

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Postby Ezer » 3 Oct 2005 19:44

I actually bought the multilock mainly out of spite. :lol: The same person that was bidding so much against me on the primus was the high bidder on the multilock as well. Sorry if that was someone on here. You caught me in a bad mood.

After I found myself to soon be in the possesion of a cutaway multilock, I decided to order the picks from multipick for them. I'm getting pretty annoyed though. I ordered the picks last Monday, and they got here Saturday. I paid for the locks the Sunday before that, and I still don't have them. The picks even had to cross the freakin' ocean to get here.
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Postby n2oah » 3 Oct 2005 19:46

digital_blue wrote:
Ezer wrote:I bought these two on Ebay last week, but I'm still waiting for them to arrive.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Ezer/mult.jpg


So YOU'RE the one! I was watching that but it got up too high for my liking. :)

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I was watching those, too. :evil:
Wow, we are an aggressive bunch when it comes to locks.
Next on my list of cutaways is a laser-track lock, then maybe an Abloy. I'm currently making cut-aways of these locks.
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Postby n2oah » 3 Oct 2005 19:53

Wow, Ezer, you paid $152.50 for that Primus. Poor Han didn't even have a chance. :cry:
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Postby Ezer » 3 Oct 2005 19:58

When it comes to locks, Han is the last person in the world I'd feel sorry for. Besides his name is Han. How cool is that. :wink:
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