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Bumpkey making: Correct Depth?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby Olcaytug » 3 Jan 2006 5:26

I really exercised too much! The keys werebroken due to the repeated torque I applied! Furhermore my finger has a violet color now (Due to thousands of accidental hits). As the number increases, small forcess can make enourmous damage!

illusion wrote:you broke three keys? :shock:

you are definately hitting them too hard in this case...

have you seen the videos I posted recently regarding bumping?

I have found that whilst it relies on some luck to a certain extent 10 strikes or less are are usualy all that's needed to bump the lock.


I can bump the lock 1 out of 3 times as long as it is in my hands and I turn it clockwise :lol: Otherwise the precentage of succesful hits drops to 1%!

I watched the videos after I read your post and it really helped. Now I'm hitting more mildly. Although it seemed impossible to bump with such a small force, actually it is easier.

I concluded that the reason is the roughly cut keys. Because more than unsuccesful hits, I usually end up with a half turned key. Some of the pins easily set but the others stops the lock.

Today I will try to get a proffessionally cut key set from a locksmith. I will tell him that I'm planning to use the keys on a project at the university. I hope he will believe me after seeing my ID card as an assitant at the faculty of mechanical engineering :wink:

Regards...
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Postby Olcaytug » 3 Jan 2006 5:29

zeke79 wrote:Ugly or crude does not matter. If your spacing is correct, it will work. I put the guide together using those tools as not everyone has access to a code cutting machine.


You are absulutely right! I only reccomend to use the side of a square file once and for all, instead of one flat file for cutting and one round file for rounding :roll:

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Postby skold » 3 Jan 2006 5:31

Maybe i would write a guide or make a video on making perfect bumpkeys using tools such as files etc.

BUT.


I am suffering from Lazy Disorder.
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Postby skold » 3 Jan 2006 5:33

Oh and where your schlagschlüssel made from soft brass key/keyblanks?
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Postby Olcaytug » 3 Jan 2006 5:43

skold wrote:Oh and where your schlagschlüssel made from soft brass key/keyblanks?


"schlagschlüssel = ?" I couldn't understand.. Sorry :oops:
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Postby skold » 3 Jan 2006 5:45

Bumpkeys :P
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Postby Fah_Cue » 3 Jan 2006 5:46

ooo skold mr technical :D
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Postby skold » 3 Jan 2006 5:48

Actually i am Mr. Not so Linguistically challenged.
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Postby bbishop762 » 27 Feb 2006 23:19

End of the day, last words, always true....gotta keep a soft hand on the lock. Of all the operators I´ve trained in the last ten years, woman have been the best pickers. Put away your man hands....only for surrep. ent.
Get on it and exploit!
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Postby Chucklz » 28 Feb 2006 0:20

schlagschlüssel

Schlag means to hit or beat. It also is a common austrian contraction of Schlagobers, meaning whipped cream. Its usually not sweetened, but really makes your Sachertorte delicious

chlüssel = key

I think the dutch is .. klopshluetel (my spelling is almost certainly incorrect)

Languages are fun.
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Postby illusion » 28 Feb 2006 10:07

Suce ma grosse bite :twisted:

Languages are cool... :wink:
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Re: Bumpkey making: Correct Depth?

Postby brian_cusick » 25 Mar 2006 12:04

kender wrote:How can I determine the correct depths of a 999 key? Is it the depth that applies no pressure to the pins while touching them?

Help please
here is a video of me bumping an era lock with home made bump key http://www.youtube.com?watch?v=WexoP5ZDWgg
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Postby brian_cusick » 25 Mar 2006 12:07

here is 1 of my home made bump keys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WexoP5ZDWgg
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Postby jordyh » 25 Mar 2006 12:38

Chucklz wrote:
I think the dutch is .. klopshluetel (my spelling is almost certainly incorrect)

Languages are fun.




You were close.

Dutch for "Bump key" is "Klopsleutel" (litterally: Knock-key).
You got it righ phonetically though, and you're right on one thing:
Languages are fun indeed.


Yours,

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Postby Gordon » 15 May 2006 0:27

Wow dude this is quite cool! Im going to try and make a 999 key. How many pins does it have to be?
Also How should i tell the key maker to make the key?
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