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LSS QUESTION

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby FIDO » 5 Feb 2006 9:04

I agree, worth every penny, also know as the bible...
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Postby vector40 » 5 Feb 2006 9:16

See if you can get it from your library, probably via interlibrary loan (ILL). That's what I did.
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Postby anbujustin » 5 Feb 2006 22:08

thanks for the replys!

I do have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge as db puts it hehe.

Right now i want to learn so much in college im taking the weirdest mix up of classes that my parents and friends are confused what my major is... which IM still wondering what i really want. Although for sure I WILL become a locksmith be it part or full time hehehe

Your comments really helped guys! im gonna get LSS as SOON AS POSSIBLE WOOT

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Postby Raccoon » 6 Feb 2006 2:55

I'm just a little confused about this work, so anyone who can elaborate, should.


LSS is the title "Locks, Safes and Security". It is available in both hard bound book and CD-ROM. However, I wish it were that simple.

There's LSS+ mentioned both at security.org and within the book itself. Does this refer to the CD-ROM edition? Or is there a LSS and LSS+ version of CD-ROM? Is there a book bound version of LSS+ aswell?

I see there are "PUBLIC", "LOCKSMITH", and "GOVERNMENT" versions also available. Are these LSS, or LSS+? And does that mean BOOK, CD-ROM, or BOTH?

Reading the description from inside the LSS book, it seems to suggest there is a LSS+ book and LSS+ CD-ROM. But security.org fails to mention any of this.
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Postby eric343 » 6 Feb 2006 3:27

Clarification:
LSS is the book.
LSS+ is the CD-Rom version.
LSS+/Public (Sometimes referred to as LSS/Public) is the electronic version available to anyone.
LSS+/Locksmith (sometimes referred to as LSS/Locksmith) is the electronic version available to locksmiths, government agents, and people that Marc Tobias otherwise deems qualified.
LSS+/Government (...LSS/Government) is available only to people working on locks, safes, and entry for the government.
LSS+/Alarms (...) is an extension of the Government version that includes alarm bypass information.
DAME is set of two discs featuring videos of Harry Sher discussing a wide variety of interesting things, availability presumably limited to the locksmith and safe technician community.

Apologies for any typos and factual errors as I'm a little drunk at the moment. Don't take any of the above to be gospel unless you've verified it with the man himself.
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Postby vector40 » 6 Feb 2006 3:42

LSS+ is the CD-ROM, which has additional media and content not present in the bound edition.

There are several different versions of the work. The basic one is Public, which means it's available to anyone. The Locksmith edition is, at least theoretically, only sold to locksmiths. Government is for government agencies. Each increasingly secure version has more (and more sensitive) information, especially about matters like security systems.
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Postby eric343 » 6 Feb 2006 4:34

Holy multiple posts, batman!

Looks like we've been having some technical difficulties...

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Postby devildog » 6 Feb 2006 4:48

:lol: :lol: :lol:

How many do I get?
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Postby vector40 » 6 Feb 2006 4:53

What's especially funny is that we posted essentially the same thing... so there's now about 20 completely redundant posts in this thread :D
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Postby Chrispy » 6 Feb 2006 8:29

Wow, that's a lot of posts. :o
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Postby Dartan » 8 Feb 2006 11:00

Wanted to mention one thing and ask another.

First, I found LSS in a library not too far from me and have it coming to my library through inter-library loan. So, if you want to check the book out before paying the big bucks for it, you might want to check the libary out.

Second, about the government version of LSS+. Would that be available to law enforcement? My father-in-law and my wife's uncle are both police officers and was curious if they would sell it to them. I'm sure I don't have much use for what's in that version, but the curiosity is getting to me :)

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Postby linty » 1 Mar 2006 18:06

here's another question, to anybody who has lss+; is the content printable? I really don't want to drop that kind of money on something I won't even be able to print and stick in a binder.
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Postby Omikron » 1 Mar 2006 18:16

linty wrote:here's another question, to anybody who has lss+; is the content printable? I really don't want to drop that kind of money on something I won't even be able to print and stick in a binder.


I can't imagine it would be. Otherwise, the really high security stuff on the Locksmith and Government editions could easily be plagarized.
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Postby zeke79 » 1 Mar 2006 18:22

No, it can not be printed.
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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Postby linty » 3 Mar 2006 7:37

i'd be happy paying for the book itself if i didn't about the extra stuff i'd be missing out on. i really can't see myself reading hundreds of pages in front of a computer screen.
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