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odd card key

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby dazza » 21 Feb 2006 22:24

Hi if you put a piece of blank card in or a thin sheet of plastic or
some sort of metal. and keep putting it in and out the lock, would
it leave a impression where the pins meet the card?
just a idea i thought of dont if it would work.
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Postby Woofcat » 22 Feb 2006 0:19

Can anyone post picks of the keys?
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Postby searsman05 » 22 Feb 2006 0:34

Hi if you put a piece of blank card in or a thin sheet of plastic or
some sort of metal. and keep putting it in and out the lock, would
it leave a impression where the pins meet the card?
just a idea i thought of don't if it would work.


Well i am not exactly sure how these locks work but i would think that when you insert a card that all 32 or so pins come down but when you have the correct card some of the 32 or so pins cannot completely go down which gives the lock the code it needs because some of the pins got to drop but not all of them. So just putting a piece of paper inside will give you an impression of all 32 or so pins inside not the actual set of pin holes you need. I would guess that picking these locks would be very difficult because there are so many pins inside the combination has way to many variations to do a trial and error kind of thing. I would imagine if you got a glimpse of a card you could narrow it down but even then it is just so many holes to remember so quickly.
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Postby dazza » 22 Feb 2006 0:48

yeah your right forgot that all the pins drop at once.
wasnt thinking properly. :oops:

nice one
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Postby pizarro » 22 Feb 2006 8:55

Your best bet might be along the lines of trying to use impressioning to produce its key. But not 100% sure how you would go about doing that.
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Postby raimundo » 22 Feb 2006 13:10

I do not have the LSS, but I believe that something about this lock is in there, the key is just a thin card, of some plastic material, think of a playing card, so the movement of the pins is not so much, the grid appears to be a square pattern, so like maybe its 6 rows and six files, if you took a playing card and punched seven rows six files of holes just a bit larger than the keys holes, you would have a rake or bump type manipulator, I would guess, that you might rapidly jerk back and forth a bit under the pins while trying to open the door. the odd thought occured to me that LSS mentions these locks in Las Vegas, if memory serves, and in vegas, there are probably a lot of playing cards to make various copies or whatever out of laying around everywhere.
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