lcok pin screwed?

[mjsotelo91]

ok well wat if i did like put the 2nd pin wrong in somehow is there somehow to get it out?

[Shrub]

Have you tried picking the second pin first? i know its simple but i didnt just see it covered, they dont pick in order.

If its a problem then yes it can be pulled apart again, have a lok at illusions repinning guide, you need to pick both pins or lift them with a key blank and shim it.

Other than that there are other ways but a pic of the lock would be best first.

[mjsotelo91]

ok what if somehow i forgot to put in the top pin is there any way i can get it out whenever i put the lock upside down i can here the bottem pin moving so it sounds like there is no top pin or spring but if that was the case then why wouldnt it unlock?

[mjsotelo91]

JIMB if i have the same problem u have how did u get the plug out? and every1 keeps telling me to take out the plug and repin it and stuff so i will now say I CANNOT TAKE OUT THE PLUG THE PLUG DOES NOT TURN that way every1 will no that it dosent turn im trying to pick it and shim it but i do not have a soda can at this time

[jimb]

JIMB if i have the same problem u have how did u get the plug out? and every1 keeps telling me to take out the plug and repin it and stuff so i will now say I CANNOT TAKE OUT THE PLUG THE PLUG DOES NOT TURN that way every1 will no that it dosent turn im trying to pick it and shim it but i do not have a soda can at this time

Without knowing exactly what has happened it's hard to say what to do.

If you are hearing a pin when you turn it upside down then it sounds like there's no spring. Even without the spring the key should open the lock provided its not upside down and the pins are in the correct order.

In my case the spring was jamming the plug. I just forced it until the spring broke.

Even if you put these pins back in the correct order there's still a possibility that you could have switched a top and bottom pin.

It sounds like you best bet would be to shim it with a key blank as suggested. This can be done even if the pins are in the wrong order or top and bottom pins are switched, provided you don't have a spring jammed.

[Shrub]

If youve missed a pin of spring wheres the extra one come from when you said you counted 3 of everything before?

If thats the case put the lock so gravity is pulling the pins down, pick the working pin and then put heavy tension on, move the other pin until it sets which it should do realativly easily.

If you have mised the top pi out you will need to push the bottom pin up past the shear line with a deep hook, if its a long bottom pin your going to have to just force the plug on the spring so the spring gets damaged.

If youve missed the bottom pin out you again push the toip pin up past the shearline until the plug moves.

Show us a pic of the lock for further advice, it may be possable that you can remove the covering plate the pins are held in with.

Eitherway you have a problem that isnt easy to describe a solution to over the internet if you are new to the hobby.

[mjsotelo91]

ok il post a pic asap i have to find the usb be cord for my camera oya the model number is EZSET #BP-200B-US3-KA5 if that help any

[Shrub]

I dont know them to be honest hence why i ask for a pic, the pic should be of the lock body and not just the face,

[mjsotelo91]

ok guys heres 2 pics one better than the other if u would like me to take a of the 2nd one again i can and just to let u know there big thats why there links


http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/m ... ock001.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/m ... ock002.jpg

[mjsotelo91]

oya and i made a shim using a soda can but its still not thin enough its like its shim proof

[mjsotelo91]

oya and i made a shim using a soda can but its still not thin enough its like its shim proof

i take that back it fits now but i cant shim the 2nd pin

[mjsotelo91]

i posted a pic can some1 plz answer? i imagine this topic has gotten to far down so knowone sees it

[Shrub]

Use a junior hacksaw blade with the teeth intact,

Press the teeth onto the brass plate that is on the top of the pin chabers and try to slide it off towards the back of the lock,

Do this in a bag so you dont loose any bits, that should let you remove the pins and spring/s then start again.

[mjsotelo91]

ok u r talking about the little plate that looks weilded on right ive tried before but i will try again thanks all for your help

[Shrub]

It should be just pressed in not soldered or anything, you may destroy it if not carefull but as its a pracise lock you will be able to fix it so it works again quite adequately.