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Postby bpc293 » 14 Jul 2006 7:37

not photobucket whats the site you can watch video shorts of people picking locks?
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Postby bpc293 » 14 Jul 2006 7:45

i found it. i think this is what you guys where talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=k ... rch=Search

its the 6th one down.
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Postby Raccoon » 14 Jul 2006 10:55

I can find no such device in any of those videos on that page. The 6th one down is simply a video of someone bumping dimple keys that have a green rubber bow using a wooden dowel rod. He is definitely using his fingers to turn the keys.
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Postby assweasel » 14 Jul 2006 14:55

By shop talk i am referring to Talk in the shop itself. One of the lock reps dropping by for a visit brought it up haven't had a chance to grill him on it but I put a call in and he should drop by pretty soon.

All I know is that he read it in one of the trade Journals which one he doesn't remember but tells me he read it around MAY. Fat lot of good that does me this Guy Is Iranian and is Fluent in at least 4 Languages that I am aware of.

As for what else I can recall about this....
They manufacture "Blades"? for the different keyways.
It incorporates a cam inside so that when you push on it the cam starts to rotate. Adjusting a screw on the back adjusts when the cam will actually hit something that causes the twist motion. So you can adjust the speed of when the twist happens.


Only way I can envision this is the Blade (key) would need to be 2 parts. The bumping part and the twisting part.

The bumping part is straight forward the blade gets driven forward.
The twist I suppose would be a 2nd part of the device using a threaded inner and outer case (like the Yanke screwdriver) when so much of a twist happens the cam engages locking part 2 of the casing and thereby causing a twisting motion.


Don't take me for gospel what i say here i am remembering what was said and am not sure if all I say was presented to me as coming from the journal or whether these were musings on how such a thing couyld work.


Anyway will re-post after talking to the rep again.
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Postby Shrub » 14 Jul 2006 16:09

Well i for one am most interested in either full details or the name of the publication he says he read it in,

Thanks,
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Postby Buzzzy » 14 Jul 2006 16:36

This is turning into a most interesting post, if if it could perform as well as a bumphammer on a wide varity of locks, it would be a most clever design.

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Postby bpc293 » 14 Jul 2006 18:40

sorry it was late the title said auto bump. i watched a little of it i didn't under stand the language and went to the next one.
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Postby bpc293 » 14 Jul 2006 19:01

after thinking about this what would be the diffrence between a auto bump and a eletric pick gun.
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Postby mh » 15 Jul 2006 1:19

bpc293 wrote:after thinking about this what would be the diffrence between a auto bump and a eletric pick gun.

For one thing - it would be the shape and movement of the blade.
In some locks you can't move the pins with the lateral movement of a pick gun, due to the warding of the keyway.
Plus, the 'auto bump' tool would also turn the plug.

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Postby bpc293 » 15 Jul 2006 2:31

i no they would move different. i really didn't mean mechanically but the restriction of the wards i didn't think of that. so a snap gun that snaps forward and a tension wrench fixed to the front of the snap gun to keep the blade level and to turn it.
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Postby mastermarc » 17 Jul 2006 15:37

this seems like a fairly easy thing to do, simply have a spring which you have to pull back and click into place, and pull the hammer back, and when it goes in, it knocks the other spring off its post and causes it to rotate the key.

if i can even get bump keys to work...i'll give this a shot.
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