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Safes and teargas

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Postby Father Time » 3 Dec 2006 18:27

I think I was recalling a story I read about the gas chamber one time. When the cyanide pellets drop beneath the chair.

I just researched it. Whew! I though my mind was getting faulty or something.

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Postby zeke79 » 3 Dec 2006 18:34

Just so everyone has an idea of what to stay away from while working on an old safe....

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Postby BazookaMedic » 3 Dec 2006 18:35

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Teargas
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Postby Father Time » 3 Dec 2006 18:36

Yaaagggghhh!

Get AWAY from me with that. :)


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Postby Romstar » 3 Dec 2006 18:41

What I am rally wondering is if that's Zeke holding the teargas, and if so, what in the devil he's doing with it in his kitchen in the first place.

Not something I realy want in my kitchen.

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Postby BazookaMedic » 3 Dec 2006 18:43

hey zeke i dare you to break one of the vials. :lol:
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Postby zeke79 » 3 Dec 2006 18:43

Tis not me or my kitchen, those are just some pics I have received from someone or found online at one time or another.

The vials I have handled have not been quite that big.
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Postby Belfast_ken » 3 Dec 2006 18:46

:oops: Nasty stuff that old TEARGAS , Used it alot in my Army training days. Take my advice anyone who is thinking of picking one of these old safes >>>> Wear a gas mask!!! LOL :oops:
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Postby Romstar » 3 Dec 2006 18:48

Glad to hear that wasn't you being nutters Zeke.

As for picking the safe, the real quetion is whether or not you know its there. At one point, you could buy these things as retrofits to existing containers.

That could come as a nasty surprise. While I can easily scare up a good gas mask, its not what you would call a common piece of kit.

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Postby zeke79 » 3 Dec 2006 18:56

The above vial pack is safer to work with if you are just manipulating the safe. This pack is made for shock and will go off if the vial pack is drilled through or the safe is struck hard. Care must be taken while moving old safes with this device in them as if they are jarred the pack will break the tips of the vials off. It is generally best if moving a safe to remove the vial pack and store packed well in a sealed container until it can be disposed of.
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Postby Raccoon » 3 Dec 2006 19:35

Again, the identitiy of safes that came standard with these would be appreciated. As well, the identity of manufacturers who sold these as retrofits around what era and region.
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Postby Father Time » 3 Dec 2006 21:44

zeke79 wrote:The above vial pack is safer to work with if you are just manipulating the safe. This pack is made for shock and will go off if the vial pack is drilled through or the safe is struck hard. Care must be taken while moving old safes with this device in them as if they are jarred the pack will break the tips of the vials off. It is generally best if moving a safe to remove the vial pack and store packed well in a sealed container until it can be disposed of.




As I recall, the safe door was peeled from the left upper corner. Failing that, they peeled both the side and upper walls around it. I think the concrete stopped them cold. Didn''t know how to deal with it.

I only found one vial, and it was about 2/3 of the size of the one's pictured.

Old safe too, at least from the looks of it. I can almost see Edward G. Robinson telling his boys to "blow it".


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It also illustrates my point that people have an interest in safes... as much as they do picking locks while munching on a cheeseburger and text messaging their girlfriend in Omaha. All at the same time. :)

Maybe someday, we could have a forum here that also deals with this subject? One that is a watered down, "get to know a little" place where people like me can come and discuss such things, without the fear of getting the thread locked. (Anyone besides me, see the irony of locking something here?) :)

Just a thought.

Let the petition begin here.



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Postby zeke79 » 3 Dec 2006 21:50

I guess I do not see what is ironic.... I simply posted what to stay away from, not how to freeze a safe with liquid nitrogen and start bashing away at it (who was it that done that again?) ...
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Postby Father Time » 3 Dec 2006 22:17

I'm a visonary. ( Move along, nothing to see here. :))

I understand the conservation of knowledge surrounding safes, but then again, many people feel the same way about recreational lock picking. Does anybody wish to join THAT crowd?

I merely wish to represent those of us who have this interest.

Plant it, and watch it grow.


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Postby n2oah » 3 Dec 2006 22:18

There was also type of explosive deterrent installed in older safes. I believe the warning signs are black or grey smoke bellowing from the safe.
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