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I Feel like starting to picklocks

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby drunk.with.love » 22 Dec 2006 22:31

Raccoon wrote:I'm not dumb. :cry:


Ahahahha! That made me smile. Very cute, lol. Pshhhh we know you're not dumb.
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Postby Raccoon » 22 Dec 2006 23:37

:)

Cute sig. Much better than the first.
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Postby What » 23 Dec 2006 0:34

drunk.with.love wrote:Lol... and be nice.


As for picks... I have a SouthOrd set (32 pick set) and it works fine but supposedly, a 5 pick set would suffice.


Good luck, love.


truthfully you only need maybe 2 picks. i only have:

- 2 hook picks(HPC)
- 1 half diamond(HPC)
- 1 home made S-rake

i really only use the half diamond and the hook...
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Postby drunk.with.love » 23 Dec 2006 0:55

Raccoon wrote::)

Cute sig. Much better than the first.


Thanks! Sick paint skills haha. I'm too lazy for photoshop now... although I used to love it before...

What wrote:
drunk.with.love wrote:Lol... and be nice.


As for picks... I have a SouthOrd set (32 pick set) and it works fine but supposedly, a 5 pick set would suffice.


Good luck, love.


truthfully you only need maybe 2 picks. i only have:

- 2 hook picks(HPC)
- 1 half diamond(HPC)
- 1 home made S-rake

i really only use the half diamond and the hook...


Actually, same here really. The only real issue is the size of the keyhole, then sometimes I like to switch to a different size, but they usually stay the same more or less.
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Postby hurri » 23 Dec 2006 3:01

hey boyz....let that guy pick...so what if he's 13.....i'm 15...not a big deal...if he realises that this is just a SPORT....let him pick... :roll:
But I'll suggest you to wait a few weeks....just for yorself...to see if that you really want to pick or you wanted this because you were bored... :roll:
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Postby Raccoon » 23 Dec 2006 3:15

hi hurri. i think the concern more focused around him wanting to break into things. there should have been no reason for him to weigh the choice "should i buy lockpicks, or should i buy padlock shims". obviously if you're here, it's to pick locks, and not break into lockers. :)

trust me, we're not picking on anyone because of their age, just their maturity.
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Postby hurri » 23 Dec 2006 8:16

Raccoon wrote:hi hurri. i think the concern more focused around him wanting to break into things. there should have been no reason for him to weigh the choice "should i buy lockpicks, or should i buy padlock shims". obviously if you're here, it's to pick locks, and not break into lockers. :)

trust me, we're not picking on anyone because of their age, just their maturity.


Ok....sounds fair to me...:)
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Postby nezumi » 23 Dec 2006 14:26

What wrote:truthfully you only need maybe 2 picks. i only have:

- 2 hook picks(HPC)
- 1 half diamond(HPC)
- 1 home made S-rake

i really only use the half diamond and the hook...


And, of course, tension wrenches.

I have the SouthOrd 11 piece set, which has been more than sufficient for me for everything I've been doing so far.

If you are interested in pick locking for the purpose of figuring out how things work, of increasing your hand-eye coordination, or to learn a marketable skill, I recommend you do the following:

1) Get your parents' permission. Life will suck if you put down $40 in gear and your parents nick it because they don't want you doing it.
2) Read. The MIT lockpicking guide is a good start, but the whole "for beginners" thread here should give you all the background you need to master the concept.
3) Verify it is legal for you to own lock picks in your state or nation. Check out the Legality thread for a quick overview, but it wouldn't hurt to get other sources for this as well. Policemen are not a good source because they seem to regularly not know the laws they're paid to enforce, but a lawyer or your state's legal codes would be good.

Alright, that's all the free background work you MUST do before continuing. Once that's done, get some money and buy a set of picks and practice locks.

You can get the picks at www.southord.com (and other sites, but these guys are my preferred). I have the 11 piece set, which has been sufficient for my needs so far. Until you've really gotten into it, I'd shy away from the bigger sets as a possible waste of money (and as being too confusing). I don't know that the smaller sets will have all the useful tools.

Practice locks can be acquired cheaply at any hardware and many department stores. In addition, you can oftentimes get used locks by calling local locksmiths, explaining what you're doing, and offering to pay them for their trouble. Ebay is a good source for higher end locks, but at $8 for shipping, it's hard for them to be competitive compared to cheapy locks.

The general rule of thumb is a lock is about as good as you paid for it. A $10 lock is cheap and should be easy to pick. A $50 lock is pretty good, and will be a challenge. A $100 lock will keep you working at it for weeks or months. Don't believe the hardware store people when they say a lock is unpickable. Every lock can be picked. In the US, Weiser and Kwik-set locks are generally the common cheapy locks.


If, on the other hand, you are trying to learn how to pick locks so you can break into places you shouldn't, cause mischief or otherwise be troublesome, please exit stage right and do not return. We strongly condemn the practice of picking locks for anything other than legitimate business purposes or on practice locks that are not in use. Do not bring your lock picks to school, it's only asking for trouble.
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Postby Deathadder » 23 Dec 2006 19:42

Who is this Jason13 you speak of, I have no recollection of him whatsoever :wink: :wink: :D
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
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Postby paliincali415 » 25 Dec 2006 3:39

heres an easy answer if u want to get started.. im new too but not that new.. go to www.southord.com and look at the loock pick sets ranging from 10 to 20 dollars get 1 of those and learn from it i suggest u get the 1 with the book to start u off...


good luck... if u need more info im me on aim paliincali415 :D
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Postby What » 25 Dec 2006 4:26

nezumi wrote:
And, of course, tension wrenches.


yeah, i just dont mention my collection :lol:

i have prolly about 10-15 different tension tools, most of which work very well on some keyways and not at all on others....
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Postby Stash » 27 Dec 2006 2:00

I suggest finding a local person who knows lockpicking to let you borrow a feeler pick and a tension wrench if possible, before you spend your money on a set of picks, and to show your parents that your interested in it as a hobby/sport, not an accessory of burglary(or whatever the legal term is...). I'm 15 myself, and I got lucky because my step dad is a certified locksmith(who surprisingly has never had a job as a locksmith) and I "found and borrowed/accidentally took off with" his picks until my mom warmed up to the idea of letting me get my own. Also, go to walmart, look for cheap, keyed, Master locks, with 1-2 little padlock symbols for security, or Brinks locks with the security rating at the lowest, but you may not want to buy the super-cheap "wang-chong-long-sou" generics, as they are hard to open with the key even, and have a good chance of breaking your picks. The most important rule is READ. Read any tutorial you can get your hands on at first, it will help, believe me. If you have limited time, try the MIT guide, and the different guides like making shims once you get comfortable with the basics of picking.
Cheers and merry day-after-Christmas,
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Postby Irish Joe » 27 Dec 2006 22:05

house/car/safe/chasity belt


CHASTITY BELT ?

What the heck are you into ?
The mind is a door waiting to be opened..
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Postby Firearm » 28 Dec 2006 1:31

nezumi wrote: Policemen are not a good source because they seem to regularly not know the laws they're paid to enforce, but a lawyer or your state's legal codes would be good.


You should change that to "What Policeman in his right mind would tell anyone, let alone a teenager, to go ahead and start picking locks" (other than a locksmith). Also, you haven't dealt much with lawyers have you? A paralegal would be a better bet since they do all the research for the lawyers. :)

P.S. Since things don't always read as written, I'm being sarcastic with a smile on my face.
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