Tubular Lock Problem! Help!

[Schuyler]

Chucklz,
It has a 7 pin tubular and a combination dial. As a result of this, I convinced my company to upgrade to a "real" safe and it is loaded with an anti-robotic dial and other bells and whistles. It took me 30 minutes just to change the combo on the safe!

That's great news. Was your old one a Sentry? Glad to hear you guys are operating more securely.

[raimundo]

the guy says hes in iraq, it dont think robot dialers are a big threat there, they just put a shaped charge on the guy with the combination and ask him if he wants a light.
But once again, I have heard of the troops cracking safes over there recently, and I am wondering if they have a specialist group that does this or if the 11b grunts are handling it.

[Chucklz]

antirobot dialer protection?

Wouldn't happen to be a Mas-Hamilton X-09 as the lock?

Glad to hear you got a better container. Never forget no safe is completely "safe".

[Schuyler]

antirobot dialer protection?

Wouldn't happen to be a Mas-Hamilton X-09 as the lock?

Glad to hear you got a better container. Never forget no safe is completely "safe".

My friends who are peripherally into this hobby via my constant conversation all got government (or "non-government" think tank) jobs after college and report to me regularly about funny X-0* problems.

Usually just that someone managed to get themselves locked out for a while, or whatever, but one time when one of them found out that the safe they hadn't previously had access to, actually just had another safe inside of it, which he did not yet have access to

[Shrub]

one time when one of them found out that the safe they hadn't previously had access to, actually just had another safe inside of it, which he did not yet have access to

Yes you do get two for that one, not often given out but its worth it, ah stuff it, heres another

[Craiger]

The old safe was a Sentry with a standard combo dial, with an Ace lock located slightly below and to the left of the dial, next to the throw-lever. The new safe is a Diebold with a piezo-electronic dial and an anti-robotic dialer system. 3 misdials and you're locked out for 30 minutes. It's an infinately better safe! Thanks again for all of the help!

[Shrub]

Were glad to have been of help, hope you stick around

[Craiger]

Were glad to have been of help, hope you stick around

Thanks Shrub! I'm here to stay and willing to learn and to contribute!

[djslacker]

I have a similar problem that I haven't found an answer for yet on the forums. I have a couple tubular locks that I practice on and this same problem has happened on both of them. I will get them picked, they will turn to unlock, but in the process, it will "reset" in a different set of holes. Here's where the weird part comes. What is the possibility that there would be a spare hole with no pin or spring in it?

I picked the lock, it rotated one set of holes to the left and then reset. I tried to pick it back, but looking at the pins, they were all normal except for one. That pin was flush with the hole it was in so I think that it is restricting me from picking it because it is blocking the rotating path...just what a pin should do (if that makes sense). Is it possible that it found a totally empty hole and since there is nothing to push it out, it's just sitting there??

[Trip Doctor]

...Does the pin feel springy?

[djslacker]

No. Here's an update. The pin is free in the hole. The pin to it's right is another story. Normally you can insert the tubular pick and push each feeler in and you will hear a click and feel a little give when you pick the pin. The pin on the right has none of that. It is hard to push in. Almost like the spring is under a lot of tension and there isn't much give left in it. I'm still tinkering though