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by globallockytoo » 31 Dec 2007 13:25
freakparade3 wrote:I always think "WWSD". He would not have allowed this thread, so I stated my opinion that it was advanced.
"he" is no longer here by his choice.....
That he was making spurious decisions without consultation was insulting to many other legitimate members.
I disagree with you (ya) freak 
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by freakparade3 » 31 Dec 2007 13:54
globallockytoo wrote:freakparade3 wrote:I always think "WWSD". He would not have allowed this thread, so I stated my opinion that it was advanced.
"he" is no longer here by his choice..... That he was making spurious decisions without consultation was insulting to many other legitimate members. I disagree with you (ya) freak 
I respect you and your decision to disagree with me Global. It's not the first time I've been disagreed with. I'm not a very nice guy. 
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by LeeNo » 31 Dec 2007 19:40
JackNco wrote:LeeNo wrote:Think about it - if you are a criminal that actually uses locksport techniques (rather than just breaking the window instead of picking the lock) then you would be one of the people most likely to actively participate on this forum
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I honestly don't know where you're going with this  Is my daily percentage high or low compared to the average? If it is low, then your post makes no sense. If it is high, then I get the joke  Is 2 posts a day considered "active participation"?
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by mcm757207 » 31 Dec 2007 20:03
I also think that the advanced forums provides another aspect that hasn't been mentioned... due diligence. Maybe it doesn't do exactly what it's intended to do, but it shows an attempt at a level of responsibility. It also provides some level of comfort, weather legitimate or not, to people posting sensitive information on the internet. Sure there may be people in the advanced forums using the information for malicious purposes, but at least it's no longer going to show up in google searches when someone punches in for example "medeco picking" or "BMW car bypass."
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by LeeNo » 31 Dec 2007 20:07
mcm151201 wrote:but at least it's no longer going to show up in google searches when someone punches in for example "medeco picking" or "BMW car bypass."
I hadn't thought of that aspect. That is actually a meaningful reason for restricting access to that forum.
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by Beyond » 31 Dec 2007 21:12
mcm151201 wrote:I also think that the advanced forums provides another aspect that hasn't been mentioned... due diligence. Maybe it doesn't do exactly what it's intended to do, but it shows an attempt at a level of responsibility. It also provides some level of comfort, weather legitimate or not, to people posting sensitive information on the internet. Sure there may be people in the advanced forums using the information for malicious purposes, but at least it's no longer going to show up in google searches when someone punches in for example "medeco picking" or "BMW car bypass."
Not that, that kind of stuff isn't already out there and widely available.
I'd like to think the great minds keep this site going come up with some innovate stuff but there's no way they come up with it all, they have to gather their information elsewhere.
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by mcm757207 » 31 Dec 2007 21:29
Beyond wrote:mcm151201 wrote:I also think that the advanced forums provides another aspect that hasn't been mentioned... due diligence. Maybe it doesn't do exactly what it's intended to do, but it shows an attempt at a level of responsibility. It also provides some level of comfort, weather legitimate or not, to people posting sensitive information on the internet. Sure there may be people in the advanced forums using the information for malicious purposes, but at least it's no longer going to show up in google searches when someone punches in for example "medeco picking" or "BMW car bypass."
Not that, that kind of stuff isn't already out there and widely available. I'd like to think the great minds keep this site going come up with some innovate stuff but there's no way they come up with it all, they have to gather their information elsewhere.
There is a lot of original technical information in the advanced forums, I don't know if you have access or not but if you do you know what I'm talking about. I'd be comfortable in saying that there is no other place on the web with the wealth of knowledge about bypass of locks that this one has, at least ones that are semi-accessible to the public.
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by JackNco » 31 Dec 2007 22:08
LeeNo wrote:JackNco wrote:LeeNo wrote:Think about it - if you are a criminal that actually uses locksport techniques (rather than just breaking the window instead of picking the lock) then you would be one of the people most likely to actively participate on this forum
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I honestly don't know where you're going with this  Is my daily percentage high or low compared to the average? If it is low, then your post makes no sense. If it is high, then I get the joke  Is 2 posts a day considered "active participation"?
Under .5 a day is considered enough to get in the advanced forums so yes 
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by Beyond » 31 Dec 2007 22:54
mcm151201 wrote:Beyond wrote:mcm151201 wrote:I also think that the advanced forums provides another aspect that hasn't been mentioned... due diligence. Maybe it doesn't do exactly what it's intended to do, but it shows an attempt at a level of responsibility. It also provides some level of comfort, weather legitimate or not, to people posting sensitive information on the internet. Sure there may be people in the advanced forums using the information for malicious purposes, but at least it's no longer going to show up in google searches when someone punches in for example "medeco picking" or "BMW car bypass."
Not that, that kind of stuff isn't already out there and widely available. I'd like to think the great minds keep this site going come up with some innovate stuff but there's no way they come up with it all, they have to gather their information elsewhere.
There is a lot of original technical information in the advanced forums, I don't know if you have access or not but if you do you know what I'm talking about. I'd be comfortable in saying that there is no other place on the web with the wealth of knowledge about bypass of locks that this one has, at least ones that are semi-accessible to the public.
That may be the case but I can't imagine that any sort of majority originates from those forums alone.
Nevertheless, if you say so then I will confide my original opinion and reserve judgment until I can accurately look into it.
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by freakparade3 » 31 Dec 2007 23:46
Theres is alot of info that originated from members of this site. There is info on abloy and Smartkey locks that you will find nowhere else on the net.
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by mh » 1 Jan 2008 2:18
And there's some stuff on ABUS Plus that was really indeed original work.
But what about the WWSD thing? Did I miss something? Is Shrub now someone who-must-not-be-named??!?
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by Eyes_Only » 1 Jan 2008 8:30
Whats WWSD?
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by freakparade3 » 1 Jan 2008 9:59
WWSD = What would Shrub do. No Shrub is not he who must not be named. It was a play on the old WWJD or what would do bracelets that were popular a few years back. I know Shrub ruffled alot of feathers but personally I agreed with the desisions he made and he was a good friend to me. When something gets posted that Shrub would have locked I let them know it's advanced. It apprears I ruffled a few feathers this time. I'm not a mod, I don't pretend to be and the fact is that a mod did move the OP into the advanced area.
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by Trip Doctor » 1 Jan 2008 17:22
Well, if you could get into the advaced forums right when you sign up, you have to image there would be a lot of information stolen from this forum and posted at other places.
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by UWSDWF » 1 Jan 2008 17:25
I miss Shrub.....
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