ridinplugspinnaz wrote:le.nutzman wrote:It's normal, and I have pinned American 5200 padlocks with all 5 spool pins and let me tell you, it was the first and last time I'd ever do that. What you now have to figure out is exactly what order the spool pins have to be set in. Any other order than the correct order and you'll experience exactly what you posted, just means you're not setting the pins in the correct order. Took me all of about 3 days to pick my first all spool pin lock.
Something to keep in mind though, if you repinned the lock this way, if you can remember the order in which you had to pick it prior to repinning it, this doesn't change because you changed the pins TO THE EXTENT that the original picking order remains the same due to the way the plug was originally drilled at the manufacturer. What DOES change is how often the binding pin will change because you have increased the number of "catch" points by using spool pins instead of regular pins.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it generally common practice (at least from the factory) to pin locks with at least one standard driver instead of all spools? The reason being, I believe, is to prevent unintended turning of the plug when inserting the key... if the plug could turn a bit, that would catch some spools on the lip of the shear line, which would prevent the key from going in any further, or in the worst case, dent the key or the pins themselves. So in the "real world", you shouldn't encounter any locks with all spools, right?
I can totally see why you'd want to pin a lock as all spools though, I bet that is a crazy picking exercise to get hone your skills on.
Actually you're wrong in this manner of thinking. Higher end locks have on several ocassions done just this, filled every pin stack with security pins. Every American 5200 Padlock I've ever picked has alway had a combination of serrated pins and spool pins, both considered to be security pins. The ONLY deviance that I am aware of are SFIC locks, due to their design, nature and tolerances, NORMALLY don't have ANY security pins in them at all, this is not to say that they can't, just that they normally don't.
Doesn't matter if the lock was pinned with all spools or not, with the correct key used, you wouldn't experience what you're saying would happen because all pin stacks would be raised to the appropriate sheer line.
