Safe problem

[mcm757207]

Someone with more safe experience will correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like 0 is in the dead zone and shouldn't be used as the last number...so if that's what someone set it to, that might be why you're having trouble opening it.

Then again I could be completely wrong.

-steve

It's hard to tell from that picture what type of lock it is, might be a 6730 but who knows. Your correct in assuming that 0 is in the forbidden zone, but that's making several assumptions: that the lock is a 6730 or similar, and that it is installed correctly. No way to know really.

[exspook]

i know this thread is old now but did you get it open?

as it could also be a relocker that has fired

Dave

[mcm757207]

i know this thread is old now but did you get it open?

as it could also be a relocker that has fired

Dave

If it were a relocker the dial would come to a stop. If the dial comes to a stop prematurely it's likely an internal relocker, and if it fully retracts the bolt but the handle won't turn than it's an external relocker. I don't think that's the problem.

[straightpick]

Someone with more safe experience will correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like 0 is in the dead zone and shouldn't be used as the last number...so if that's what someone set it to, that might be why you're having trouble opening it.

Then again I could be completely wrong.

You are completely correct. The dead zone for Sargent and Greenleaf locks is 0 - 20. The last number should not be one of those.

[mcm757207]

If the spline key is not installed in the right place, the last number could fall in that range on an S&G.

[straightpick]

I did some research and found that the forbidden zone on the 6600/6700 series locks is between 4 and 12. Are you sure you are dialing the combination correctly?

1- Turn the dial to the left, so that 80 is lined up with the opening index(the line on the dial ring that is at 12 o'clock). Continue turning the dial left and stop on 80 the third time it reaches the line. Remember, if you turn past it you can't "back up". If you do turn past it, on the first number, just give it another turn and stop on 80.

2- Turn the dial to the right so that 42 is aligned with the line. Now contine turning to the right and stop on 42 the second time it reaches the line. If you turn past the number this time, you have to start over.

3- Turn the dial to the left so that 0 is aligned with the line. Continue turning to the left and stop on 0 the next time it reaches the line. Again, if you turn past the number, you have to start from the beginning.

4- Now turn the dial slowly to the right until it stops. When the dial stops, turn the handle and pull the door open. If the dial DOESN'T stop you have the wrong combination or a malfunction. If the dial stops and you cannot turn the handle, you probably have a relocker that has fired.

hope this helps!

[lunchb0x]

on top of what straightpick said, after you dial the last number turn the dial to the drop in point and give the door of the save a few taps with something like a mallet, I have had a few safes where the drop in arm is sticking or the spring is broken and this has worked for me, but do not hit the dial of the lock.

[exspook]

this is sounding like a job for the [edit]
how thick is the door?

I dont suppose you have [edit] a safe by chance?

I dont believe I can discuss this on this section anymore but reading back over all the superb replies I think almost all eventualities have been covered..looks like the wrong number

It is nice to see so many helpfull responses on aforum like this though


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[unlisted]

This should and will end up advanced if people offer any more advice than what has been mentioned.

No more mentioning scoping/drilling, etc. Basic "hey the combo may be off a few" or "try hitting the door after the correct combo" is okay... and since already given, does not need to be restated.

I'll leave this here, and unlocked in hopes the OP can inform us all the outcome.

I would kindly ask no more advice be given, as it will end up causing this topic to be moved to the advanced forums.

[maxxed]

I occasionally run asross a safe that the first 2 wheels have been locked together so that there is a 2 number verses a 3 number combination, this would explain the 0 as the last number.Try 4 turms right to the first number, 2 turns left to the second number, then turn right till the dial stops.

Hope this works for you

[novaman_68]

I still haven't got the dang thing open yet, I've tried everything that's been suggested. What's are you talking about when you say "the relocker has been fired"? that doesn't sound good. Before I bought the safe they said "the kids were playing with it and we couldn't get it open after that", could the "kids" have changed the combination? I'm about to take it to a locksmith, BUT I don't them to destroy it to get it open AND I don't want to have a fortune in this thing. What is a ballpark figure that a locksmith might charge to open this thing? What's the safe even worth if it was usable in working condition? I gave $20 for it the way it sits, should I give up and go find another?

[mcm757207]

In your case the relocker isn't fired. I know this because you haven't said anything about your dial coming to a stop.

A locksmith may charge anywhere from $150 to $250 to open that, that's what you would be charged here anyway. That would include the repair so it would be good to go afterwords. I'd say it was worth it, the picture isn't very good but it looks like a decent box.