HELP! think ive totally screwed up my lock

[MacGyver101]

I guess its because I don't immediately write someone's situation off without the facts. What's that saying about assuming?

The only situation our members should be facing is "I'm having trouble picking this lock that's sitting on the table in front of me". Not "I'm having trouble opening my car door", "how do I cut this safe open", or (my favourite) "this trigger lock just won't come off". (All fairly regular requests that we see from new people on this site.)

This site is not HowToBreakIntoThings.com. If someone comes here because they want to understand locks and lockpicking as a hobby, then I think that's great and I'll help them as much as I can. But if they're here because they want to know "how do I break into a _________", then yes: I assume that they're in the wrong place. That aside, even if the person asking the question has good intentions, we certainly won't be so lucky with every random person who searches Google for "how to drill a lock".

When you're working professionally, there's a line you don't cross. You don't hand out T-shirts with your previous client's master-key charts printed on the back. You don't leave your drill-point book chained to the door, in case someone needs to open a safe while you're closed. As a community on this site, we have a line too... and, as a security professional, I'd have hoped that you'd be a little more accepting of that.

[femurat]

This is a situation I was thinking about when I made this question...
Now, can somebody help us writing a standard answer? I really hope we can stop fighting each other instead of simply link the standard answer and go on reading something more interesting.

Cheers

[Tyler J. Thomas]

yeah, it makes lots of a$$es, but you seem to act like you know all the facts as if you're there in person. Frankly, you're not, and you dont know all the facts either, just as I don't know them. This is the internet, I wouldn't be so trusting. I guess you just haven't been burned enough times on the net or in real life to be as skeptical as some of us are.

I'm not saying that his situation is legit. I'm defending the fact that his situation is plausible which a lot of people seem to be disputing. Stop trying to make something out of nothing and save the lectures.

The only situation our members should be facing is "I'm having trouble picking this lock that's sitting on the table in front of me". Not "I'm having trouble opening my car door", "how do I cut this safe open", or (my favourite) "this trigger lock just won't come off". (All fairly regular requests that we see from new people on this site.)

This site is not HowToBreakIntoThings.com. If someone comes here because they want to understand locks and lockpicking as a hobby, then I think that's great and I'll help them as much as I can. But if they're here because they want to know "how do I break into a _________", then yes: I assume that they're in the wrong place. That aside, even if the person asking the question has good intentions, we certainly won't be so lucky with every random person who searches Google for "how to drill a lock".

Oh forgive this guy for being in a tight spot and asking a community that's remotely related. Hobbyists, locksmiths, DIY'ers, etc. frequent this site - I wonder where he got the notion that this might be the place to ask.

When you're working professionally, there's a line you don't cross. You don't hand out T-shirts with your previous client's master-key charts printed on the back. You don't leave your drill-point book chained to the door, in case someone needs to open a safe while you're closed. As a community on this site, we have a line too... and, as a security professional, I'd have hoped that you'd be a little more accepting of that.

Again, I'm not telling this guy how to open his lock and I'm not telling him how to get in. I'm just defending the fact that his situation is plausible and that you and everyone else questioning it's legitimacy based on the fact that he's locked out yet able to take pictures and post on the internet is a bit preachy.

[Jaakko]

I'm not saying that his situation is legit. I'm defending the fact that his situation is plausible which a lot of people seem to be disputing. Stop trying to make something out of nothing and save the lectures.

Everything can be plausible, he can be se, she can have nuclear weapon behind that door and what else we can plausibly (is that even a word?). Stop making something out of nothing, you too.

unlisted or someone, just lock this as this thread is A) not for public discussion, B) has derailed in to flaming and C) because I say so

[Squelchtone]

I'm just defending the fact

but why? Post something about a lock you picked, or a lock break down or a how to or something. Don't just be here to present the counter point all the time. I'm not a mod and you're not a lawyer so lets get back to talking about locks, I'm sure we would get a long much better if this hadn't derailed (by both of our hands) into a philosophical debate. I honestly don't find it fun, or a good use of my time to scold n00bs about picking locks in use, I'd rather talk about some cool new lock mechanism or a rare lock I saw out in the wild, or beer or girls; things we all can agree about.

let's hug it out.
Squelchtone

[Tyler J. Thomas]

Everything can be plausible, he can be se, she can have nuclear weapon behind that door and what else we can plausibly (is that even a word?). Stop making something out of nothing, you too.

Plausible is not the same as possible. Plausible has an implication of reasonability.

[mhole]

What kind of locksmith advocates getting the drill out to open a Yale 77?!

There is a bypass which would open that in seconds without any damage, and your average, reasonalby dexterous promate could do it.

Anyway, too late for that now. If you can't get the plug to turn freely, try tapping it around using a small screwdriver and hammer, this will usually get a stubborn core moving.

[Jaakko]

Everything can be plausible, he can be se, she can have nuclear weapon behind that door and what else we can plausibly (is that even a word?). Stop making something out of nothing, you too.

Plausible is not the same as possible. Plausible has an implication of reasonability.

And your scenario of his situation is more plausible than any other because..? Exactly, there is no information about anything and it is better to just say "call a locksmith".

[Tyler J. Thomas]

Everything can be plausible, he can be se, she can have nuclear weapon behind that door and what else we can plausibly (is that even a word?). Stop making something out of nothing, you too.

Plausible is not the same as possible. Plausible has an implication of reasonability.

And your scenario of his situation is more plausible than any other because..? Exactly, there is no information about anything and it is better to just say "call a locksmith".

You're advocating that a nuclear device behind that door is just as likely as him locking himself out. Do you not see how silly you're sounding?

[Jaakko]

You're advocating that a nuclear device behind that door is just as likely as him locking himself out. Do you not see how silly you're sounding?

Just following your logic where everything is possible/plausible from a couple of lines of text and a picture of a broken lock.

Here is something plausible: He/she is a burglar, who tried to drill a lock. Did not succeed, took a picture of the lock, came here and made up a story of his "lockout" and why he has tried to drill. All this just to get information on how to properly drill (that) lock.

[Legion303]

This is getting out of hand. Please have some mutual respect. This very well could be an internal door, and the poster could have very well legitimately locked his keys inside. But that's completely irrelevant, because we don't discuss destructive entry in the open sections. Period. Call a locksmith.

-steve