Beginner-Friendly Padlock, Security Pins

[parkourer]

Hey Guys

So I made the wrong choice of buying a Master Lock 1903. In my hardware store, there were no 140's. I could have bought a #1 or a #5 but no, i had to buy the hardest Master Lock there was . It apparently has 5 pins, and some are security or it might be 5 pins and 1 security pin (even better ). Its a 50mm lock, which isn't laminated like the #1, 3, and 5. It says "CHINA" on the bottom.

I will try my best to pick this, using some tutorials online, but is there any way to re-pin this? I kind of got my hopes up when i saw that there was a small hole on the bottom of the padlock, but dashed them when i found out that it was for draining liquids or oil or something But can the 190 be re-pinned at all?
I guess i could find out eventually, but if you guys have ever picked this lock, or another 5 pin security Master Lock, how long does it usually take, and what kinds of security pins are there, and about how many normal pins are there?

Ty,
PK

[GWiens2001]

Pictures???

Gordon

[Squelchtone]

why are you making a new thread about this? it is a continuation of you asking us what to buy which was a 140.. keep the threads together so it is cohesive.. I am joining this thread to your original one..

Please help us keep the clutter to a minimum, we already have enough high maintenance users, and cannot spend all day fixing one person's posts..


Squelchtone

[parkourer]

Okay, sorry i got confused, it is the number 1903 not 190.
and here is the picture.



Please ignore my fingers.

why are you making a new thread about this? it is a continuation of you asking us what to buy which was a 140.. keep the threads together so it is cohesive.. I am joining this thread to your original one..

Squelchtone, No, it isn't i already bought the 1903, please don't join it

[GWiens2001]

That looks like a Master 140. So that is how it works.

Gordon

[parkourer]

That looks like a Master 140. So that is how it works.

Are you sure? It said it was a Master Lock 1903t. And this post http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=23712 doesn't list the 1903 anywhere. I thought it was a 190, so i looked in that post, and i saw there was 5 pins, and security pins, but now that i found out its a 1903, i really don't know how many pins, there could be 6 for all i know . I don't think it has 4 pins like the 140

Edit: I found exactly what i bought : http://www.ssltt.com/browse.cfm/padlocks/4,21886.html

[Squelchtone]

That looks like a Master 140. So that is how it works.

Are you sure? It said it was a Master Lock 1903t. And this post http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=23712 doesn't list the 1903 anywhere. I thought it was a 190, so i looked in that post, and i saw there was 5 pins, and security pins, but now that i found out its a 1903, i really don't know how many pins, there could be 6 for all i know . I don't think it has 4 pins like the 140

It is a 1903d-e and is sold in Phillipines, Australia, and apparantly Puerto Rico. It appears the 140 is sold as a 1903d-e in your country, end of story. And I merged the topics because it is part of your search for a lock. You asked about what lock to buy, we told you, you couldn't find that model and got the 1903 sold in your country and here we are.

[parkourer]

It is a 1903d-e and is sold in Phillipines, Australia, and apparantly Puerto Rico. It appears the 140 is sold as a 1903d-e in your country, end of story. And I merged the topics because it is part of your search for a lock. You asked about what lock to buy, we told you, you couldn't find that model and got the 1903 sold in your country and here we are.

Yeah, that sounds about right

Thanks so much
Can you tell me how you found that out?

[Squelchtone]

It is a 1903d-e and is sold in Phillipines, Australia, and apparantly Puerto Rico. It appears the 140 is sold as a 1903d-e in your country, end of story. And I merged the topics because it is part of your search for a lock. You asked about what lock to buy, we told you, you couldn't find that model and got the 1903 sold in your country and here we are.

Yeah, that sounds about right

Thanks so much
Can you tell me how you found that out?

I googled it.

[parkourer]

Thank you

So glad i didn't buy a 5 pin lock

[parkourer]

Just to make sure, because i can't really tell

Does this key look like the lock has 5 pins or 4 pins?

[GWiens2001]

Five

Gordon

[parkourer]

So then its not a Master No. 140 equivalent lol

[parkourer]

Just a quick update if anyone is still following this post .

Since i found it was a 5 pin lock with security pins, i thought it was impossible for me to pick much less rake. However, I was raking/rapidly stroking the pins with my hook pick, and it popped open ! I guess it was only a one-time thing that was purely out of luck , because I tried it again doing what i think was the same thing, and it didn't work!
What I don't get is why i could rake it open, if it had security pins, and the biting wasn't even at all :p

Fun fact, this actually happened to me before: When i first was interested in lockpicking, i used paper clips to pick my Schlage lock (didn't know it wasn't a beginner-friendly lock at that time). I used a YouTube video, which only demonstrated the raking technique, so i raked it, and after the 5th go the plug turned. However, it turns out i had picked it the wrong way, and i couldn't do it again ever since :p

[Divinorum]

What I don't get is why i could rake it open, if it had security pins, and the biting wasn't even at all :p

It's not impossible to rake security pins and high/low bittings, it's just not as probable compared to a standard lock. Much of it is a matter of luck. You happened to get lucky, but as you found out it's not so easy to get lucky all the time. SPP is more about skill and technique than it is luck.