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Staying away from raking as a beginner ?

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Re: Staying away from raking as a beginner ?

Postby stainless steel » 17 May 2015 16:44

For me raking only have improved my skill i couldent spp locks but when i started raked locks i got more feling for locks and how locks work in real life not only in theory and that has help my spp much
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Re: Staying away from raking as a beginner ?

Postby Ske13tonKey » 25 May 2015 8:24

billdeserthills wrote:As a beginner don't be too hard on yourself. The whole point is to pick the lock and have the fun, you can make it harder later on
My Dad always told me if you could pick the lock several times, it was skill-no matter how you did it

This is the point, i dont have as much fun raking the lock open as i have spp it )
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Re: Staying away from raking as a beginner ?

Postby cpckr » 30 May 2015 23:23

This is excatly on point with me also. Raking and bypassing is not so satisfactory. I'm trying to improve visualisation of SPP on cheap locks even when i could open them in couple of seconds othervise. It's the feeling of control that comes with SPP.

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Re: Staying away from raking as a beginner ?

Postby knowspicker537 » 27 Aug 2015 19:05

I think yes the general consensus is that if one I'd just starting out one must master spp before going one to combination attacks for speed. If you pick a lock and do not know how you did it it can't be repeated therefore you've learned nothing

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Re: Staying away from raking as a beginner ?

Postby thecrazylockkid » 27 Aug 2015 19:28

deolslyfox wrote:Raking, zipping, rocking, etc are all part of the game. Locks w/o security pins are easy to rake or rock open. As you move into security pins you can rake into a false set to save time but you'll have to finish off by SPPing.

Combining attacks is generally the fastest way to get an open.

ANY method that gets an open beats not opening the lock!!


I agree!
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Re: Staying away from raking as a beginner ?

Postby thecrazylockkid » 27 Aug 2015 19:43

Personally, I think raking and SPP'ing are both very important skills that should be learned as a beginner. However, to become a good lockpicker, it is always a good idea to focus mainly on SPP'ing, since SPP'ing really helps you understand what goes on in a lock when you pick it, meaning that you learn more about locks and how they react to picking. Also, there are many times when a lock cannot be raked open, due to either the presence of security pins, or nasty bittings (i.e: 700700). SPP'ing as a beginner helps you develop the knowledge of how it feels when a pin is set, and when it is close to opening. This will help a lot, as when you become more and more of an advanced picker, SPP'ing will become more and more useful when you begin to pick more challenging locks. In addition, lock picking is a skill that requires much patience. When you SPP a lock, it takes time and patience, since you are attacking the lock one pin at a time, unlike raking, where you are trying to set as many pins at the same time as possible to open the lock quickly. In conclusion, SPP'ing has its advantages over raking as a beginner, since unlike raking, SPP'ing teaches you how a lock should feel when you are picking it, and really trains your patience. However, at the same time, raking can be very useful too, and should be learned and practiced as well, since sometimes, when you need to get in to a lock in a hurry, or when a lock is too stubborn to SPP open, raking can become very useful! :D
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