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Postby helix » 20 Oct 2005 10:25

Eyes_Only wrote:I keep a spare key in my wallet.

Dimmy Locks wrote:I keep a spare key in my wallet.


....Next to your drivers licence with your address on it?


Automobile clubs for breakdowns, etc have a vehicles
number plate digits written on a membership card
that they give you along with their 24hr phone number.

This 'card' is small, and......

A F****** KEYRING, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT???

So, you lose your keys in a shopping centre, someone finds
them and they look for your 'colour, make, model, plate number'
and off they go.

I see 'keeping a spare in your wallet' as this same BAAAD!! idea.

Maybe you could write your PIN on your bank card so that you
always have it with you in case you forget it.

Seriously, get that spare key away from your address. :roll:
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Postby Dimmy Locks » 20 Oct 2005 13:34

....Next to your drivers licence with your address on it? ""


Ummmm Nope. In the UK we dont have to carry driving licences we only have to own one. But, just so the whole world knows what's in my wallet:-

1 unmarked but cut key.
1 stencilled telephone number ( my fathers, not mine, incase of injury to myself, Next Of Kin details are always worth carrying).
Maximum of £30 ( hardly worth killing me for should someone happen to see my wallet open at a shop etc).
1 Homebase "points" card. No personal details whatsover on that.
1 credit card. ( user name is that of a company not my own).

I'm a locksmith who has to deal with victims of crime on a daily basis, I'm hardly foolish enough to invite unwanted attention to myself or my property. But if anyone fancies their chances against my Bruno and Reaper, they best be wearing fast running shoes and practiced pole vaulting fences. lol
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Postby helix » 20 Oct 2005 22:57

Fair enough dude.
I guess that I wasn't taking into account what other
countries carry in their wallets.

Over here, it is highly unusual to see a wallet that
doesn't have at least a few forms of ID in it.

Sorry if I sounded sarcastic, I reread my post then
and probably came across that way. Sorry mate.

Anyway, glad to hear that you have it under control.
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Postby Dimmy Locks » 21 Oct 2005 16:57

helix wrote:Sorry if I sounded sarcastic, I reread my post then
and probably came across that way. Sorry mate.


No need to apologise at all, no offence was taken.
I know many countries require citizens to carry ID/ driving licences at all times. In fact, UK is introducing it slowly over next few years, so fully understand why you said what you said :lol:
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Postby wraith » 24 Oct 2005 0:08

Dimmy Locks wrote:( and yes, even locksmiths lock their keys in their vans along with the tools to gain entry at times I'm speaking from experience here lol.)


I've done that a few times...

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Dim witted coppers !!!

Postby Sheriff of Whitechapel » 24 Oct 2005 7:39

I just read your thread on the shopping fiasco and i can see some clear breaches in the law committed not by yourself but by the muppets that emptied your van.

This may or may not come as a shock but i know a lot and i mean a lot of coppers and only a handful have a sense of humour and even less have the skill between them to speak to someone without tring to find some offence in what they are confronted with.

The breaches of law i mentioned are, and as i do not know the full story are as follows:

When searched by police you must be made aware of:

1 the name of the officer(s) searching

2 the station which they are from

3 the power of search they are using (in this case section 1 theft act (going equippedto steal))

4 that you are being detained for the purpose of a seach

5 the grounds for the search

6 what they are searching you for

also you must be given a copy of a search report form at the time or must be made availabe to you within 12 monts from that date

If this was not told to you then you have a case of unlawful detention and to coin a phrase where there's blam theres a claim

I hope this helps, a little knowledge goes a long way and pisses them right off as it is a right pain to write out the report at he time of search but there is nothing they can do about it.

THE SHERIFF has spoken 8)
If at first you don't succeed ..... CHEAT !!!
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Postby Chrispy » 24 Oct 2005 23:40

In Australia, all they have to give you is their name, rank, station and ID number. :?
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Postby digital_blue » 24 Oct 2005 23:41

Chrispy wrote:In Australia, all they have to give you is their name, rank, station and ID number. :?


I thought that was the rules for POWs. :P

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Postby ufd538 » 9 Nov 2005 22:28

I have got 2 solutions, either don't buy cheap @$$ key boxes, and buy a nice one and stick it to a flat piece of metal. Now assuming you had a nice one, although nice ones stick extremely well, cheap ones do not.

Second solution would be the best...use electrical ties(zip ties) and strap it to your car somewhere, those hold reallll nice.

Sorry if that came across offensive, didn't mean it to.
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Postby wraith » 10 Nov 2005 1:59

Reading the suggestions has been entertaining. Here's my .02 cents...

I drive an '04 Ford F-150. I remember the dealer asking me, "hey, you want the keypad on the drivers' side door?" At first I said no, but after a few second, I said, "yea, as long as I don't have to pay for it." I didn't, and it's helped once in 8 months...

My other vehicle is a little Mitsi pickup truck. I keep a coat hanger bent so that all I have to do is stick through the weather strip, and pop the lock open. And yes, I have done it several times - much to the humor of a few of my customers...

I also keep a spare garage key in my Ford. The key looks really funny, and all but an experienced locksmith would think it was a padlock key. One time I went fishing with some friends. I managed to drop my keys in the lake (don't ask :roll: ), and was glad to be able to get into my house when I got home. I just typed in the code, and I was in! With my spare set I was able to get copies made.

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Postby webidiot2 » 8 Jan 2006 2:03

Personally I would never have a keypad on my vehicle, they can be figured out fairly quickly. For example my father-in-law locked his keys in his car and forgot the code. I spent 2 minutes randomly hitting different buttons and unlocked the door. Before I unlocked the door though I popped the trunk. :D
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Postby naze » 18 Jan 2006 23:28

sorry to bring this back but i just had another question.

i ended up getting a move expensive box for underside my car but i still got jigglers anyway. now the only problem is i can't get them to work cause they are harder to use than i thought lol. so is there any guides around that tell you how to use them or anyone have any tips or anything??(i'm not going to use these for bad things don't worry, just for something to try on MY car in my free time.)
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Postby Chrispy » 19 Jan 2006 5:49

How to use jigglers:

- Insert into lock.
- Jiggle.
- (Secret third step) Jiggle whilst turning.




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Postby skold » 19 Jan 2006 6:48

naze wrote:sorry to bring this back but i just had another question.

i ended up getting a move expensive box for underside my car but i still got jigglers anyway. now the only problem is i can't get them to work cause they are harder to use than i thought lol. so is there any guides around that tell you how to use them or anyone have any tips or anything??(i'm not going to use these for bad things don't worry, just for something to try on MY car in my free time.)



Jigglers = Crap

Wires 'n' Wedge = Good.
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Postby CPLP » 12 Feb 2006 10:26

What kind of locks can be oppened with auto jigglers? I've got one set and tried it in my mothers car (Opel), but I didn't mannaged to open it. I didn't really try it hard because I was affraid this jigglers weren't ment for those locks and I don't want to ruin it. I'll try in my car as soon as it comes from the mechanical (clutch problem).
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