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What's Most Secure?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

Which Is Most Secure?

Medeco
13
48%
Best
1
4%
Abloy
12
44%
Zeiss-Ikon
1
4%
Yale
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 27

Postby master in training » 23 Mar 2005 14:33

i just had visions of a burgular with a drill trying to dill the lock, the drill not moving but him going round and round! :lol:

it would never happen, but its funny as h*ll! :lol:
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 23 Mar 2005 18:12

quicklocks wrote:brass is not magnetic
if you want to drill resistant a lock then fit a sandwidge of hardplate cocrete and lead, throw a few hundred hardened ball bearings as well in the lead eg from out side hard plate, lead, concrete, hard plate, lead, hard plate
with this about 2ins thick i think it would slow a driller down a bit
the hard plate bit would get cloged up by the lead then blunted by the ball bearings the concret woud just finishit off so it would take a few bit changes to get through, then as you get to the lock, some tempered glass on top sides and bottom and frount with a small hole just so the key will fit in it, so that if you breakit the fail safe relockers fire also setting off a smoke dye bomb so the area around the safe is now permantly lime green. also depending on the contents they can also be marked :D :twisted:


now were talking
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Postby Fasthands » 25 Mar 2005 9:52

if i could get a sheet of titanium, that would definitely screw their drills right over :twisted:
When I get to Heaven, will there be a lock on the gate?
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Postby vector40 » 25 Mar 2005 9:55

Furget that.

Diamond pins.
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Postby Fasthands » 26 Mar 2005 12:48

good idea
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Postby NKT » 3 Apr 2005 10:33

Boron nitride powder. Cheaper than diamond. Cheapest way is to get sand (Aluminium oxide) and mix it with a binder. Wears down anything, same as sandpaper. Layer that over and around your hardened steel ball bearings or TIN bits, and no-one is going to drill more than a small amount of it. Pour it onto the thick-ish steel plate you have already keyed with small pits, etc. for grip. Treadplate is quite nice for this. You might want to harden it a bit, though, as it could be cold-chiselled if thin.

Use something like glass or epoxy resin as the binder, and even someone with a gas torch is going to have real issues, since the stuff burns so bad with nasty fumes. Same with a disc cutter. Plus the inside of the plate is harder than the wheel!

Another trick is to put a lot of loose threads of something tough, like Kevlar, in the mix, so the threads tangle and stop any diamond discs or rotary tools, since they will pick up the threads and tangle.

Make a lock that is quite pick resistant, then mod the key so it is longer than normal, or round a corner, so that an inch of this plate is between your vital spots and the possible driller.

On the inside use a glass plate that will shatter to release additional locking pins, if you must. Have a good relocking system, make sure the safe handles are weak enough that they can't be used to pull the door off or the safe out the wall.

Put lots of rebar around the frame so it is set into the wall solidly, and to stop anyone hammering the safe loose.

Get a web-cam set up to monitor the area, with motion sensor. Watch from afar as the attackers use a 32 tonne JCB (digger) to rip your safe out and take it with them on a flatbed truck, after you get ram-raided by a lorry. Sell the footage to a reality TV show and buy another safe. :D
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