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by forrie » 17 Nov 2005 23:13
Southord makes a 7pin tubular lockpick - got one today, which needs to be replaced (not the greatest).
However, the target is a 7pin tubular lock made by ESD (popular on laundry devices).
I wonder if anyone has experience with this particular brand of tubular 7pin locks and picking.
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by grit1 » 17 Nov 2005 23:22
Are you the owner of said "target"?
Got shear line?
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by digital_blue » 17 Nov 2005 23:24
I can, without any doubt in my mind, assure you that you will not get very helpful information based on the question you have asked.
Since this is your first post, let me explain why. We at Lockpicking101 are lockpicking enthusiast. We believe strongly that you should not pick locks you don't own. This is your first post, and you have not explained why you want to pick this lock, who owns the lock, etc. Based on this information I (or anyone else) can only assume that your intentions may be unethical. For that reason, no member on this forum will be jumping up to give you good info.
If you're interested in the hobby of lockpicking, maybe stick around, get involved, get to know people, and they'll be more than happy to help you out.
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by forrie » 17 Nov 2005 23:41
This is for a unit I bought from a wholesale auction. "as is". I own it, and I don't want to break it to get it working (though that's a last resort option).
If nobody wants to offer advice, that's fine. But there's nothing illegal going on.
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by digital_blue » 18 Nov 2005 0:36
Wouldn't it have been less expensive to just hire a locksmith rather than to purchase a tubular pick?
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by wraith » 18 Nov 2005 1:21
digital_blue wrote:Wouldn't it have been less expensive to just hire a locksmith rather than to purchase a tubular pick?
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That reminds me, about 1 out of 10 customers of mine that have locked thier keys in thier car either have an "auto entry kit" or knows someone that does... They think they can figure it out instead of hiring a professional. The irony is that they don't know how to use ANY of the tools, and most couldn't read the instructions to save thier life.
I always tell 'em, "sometimes it's cheaper to hire a pro to do a job than to try and figure it out for themselves - i.e. I want a deck for my house, I can saw, hammer, etc., but my deck would be pretty sorry looking, not to mention probably dangerous, so I hired a guy that built me a deck - for less than it would've cost me to buy the tools AND wood - and I don't have to worry about falling through the thing."
I'm curious how he got the tool in the first place. Every place I get my supplies from needed Tax ID, drivers' license, birth certificate, DNA and optical scan, notes from my mother AND doctor, etc. for me to get a catalog, let alone ordering...
My humble and practicle advice is what is preached everywhere on this site - read the MIT guide, read the instructions, and practice.
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All I want is for my wife and my girlfriend to get along...
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by Auto45 » 18 Nov 2005 10:17
Some site will sell you anything, they just have a warning to check you local laws if its legal to have them, below is a copy of sites policy, they will sell you anything. I will not post the web site don't ask me.
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There may be state and or local restrictions prohibiting the possession of lock picks and related items. We WILL NOT sell any products in violation thereof. It is the responsibility of you the buyer, not us, to understand your state and local laws. If you have questions, be sure to contact your district attorney before placing an order. Absolutely No Sales To Minors! Therefore, orders paid by money order require proof of age, ie. copy of driver's license or birth certificate. By placing an order, the buyer asserts that the products ordered will be used in a lawful manner and that he/she is of legal age. By placing an order for locksmithing tools, the buyer asserts to be, without fraud or deception, a bonafied member of the locksmithing industry, or other qualified personnel. In most places you can own these items, but it does not mean you can carry them around. Having these tools with you is known as possession. If the police should stop you and you have pick tools in your possession, you will get in trouble.
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by Auto45 » 18 Nov 2005 10:33
@wraith you are so right a bout getting a catalog I order one the other day and they wanted my license number and name of company be for they would seen it out.
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by raimundo » 18 Nov 2005 13:44
I have some keys collected that say ESP on them, they are abloy mechanism types, like classic abloy, but with a half round groove for warding cut down the center, I believe that they are for vending machines, but I am wondering what ESP might be the acronym for in this context. (not extrasensory perception, thanks) and is ESD the same company?
On the issue of getting a coin acceptor for the vending machine, I once had to drill out the hardened screws for one of these laundry machines, and send the code to greenleaf for a key and new screws. You don't throw away the whole washing machine, but you do have to spend some money on the coin acceptor, and the wait for shipping after the phone calls to order can be a month plus.
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by vector40 » 18 Nov 2005 14:31
I've bought an awful lot of lockery stuff online and never once been asked to verify anything. Not sure where you guys are shopping.
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by bobkerolls » 13 Feb 2006 19:28
I feel as when I buy from Southord they never ask for my license #, but since it isn't required in my state (or my previous residence state), they might have an auto checker on their website [i.e. perhaps if I had listed my mailing residence as a restricted state then I would have needed to verify.
But that is on a side note. My post is in response to the perhaps faceitous post earlier inquiring about ESD. They make payment cards and locks solely (as far as I know) for automated laundry machines.
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by What » 13 Feb 2006 19:41
Auto45 wrote:@wraith you are so right a bout getting a catalog I order one the other day and they wanted my license number and name of company be for they would seen it out. auto
my local lockie lets me borrow his catalogs.
and the orders the stuff for me and i pay him when i pick it up.
it seems to be a really good system for getting some stuff. 
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