Help needed winning ovber parents

[cagy]

Hey all i'm keen locpicker in theory i know how to pick locks but the thing is i need some tools to get started but i have a problem my parents are against the idea!! Anyone out there have the same problem as me or have any ideas it'll be much appreciated

Cagy

[What]

yeah, it took me two years to get my parents to let me buy some picks, but i am fairly good at making picks now

[jordyh]

Eh, not to be a killjoy, but i guess the best way to get those lockpicks is trying to convince those parents of yours.

I can't say i've been trough what you're going trough (mom and dat both saw it as me finally getting something to kill time with), but i guess the community here won't encourage you to rebel against your parents.

Try to explain lockpicking, either get them interested in it too, or try to explain it is not dangerous to learn it.

Personally, i love the next dialog to convince:
you: "I give you a brick and a closed room with a window, do you know how to get into the room?"
parents: "yes, i throw it, obviously."
you: "well, i know another way, not a worse way, just another way."

Anyway, making them approve of it is much better than not making them approve, especially because you'll have to train so much with your lockpicks that your training probably won't go unnoticed.
Besides, that would be lying, now wouldn't it?


Just my 2 cents.

Good luck on it.

yours,

me

[Omikron]

Personally, i love the next dialog to convince:
you: "I give you a brick and a closed room with a window, do you know how to get into the room?"
parents: "yes, i throw it, obviously."
you: "well, i know another way, not a worse way, just another way."

Personally, I think that's a weak convincing argument. Even though it makes lockpicking look less mysterious, it still emphesized the fact that it could be used for evil.

Instead, I would reccommend having an open DISCUSSION with them about why you're interested in lockpicking. You can talk about the puzzle aspect of it, you can talk about how lockpicking forces you to imagine what's going on b/c you can't see it, you can talk about how it will improve your sense of touch and fine motor skills, how it can improve your concentration, or any other number of things. The argument of "well you can use a brick, too" will only work on weak-willed individuals and may not work on your parents.

[jordyh]

Personally, i love the next dialog to convince:
you: "I give you a brick and a closed room with a window, do you know how to get into the room?"
parents: "yes, i throw it, obviously."
you: "well, i know another way, not a worse way, just another way."

Personally, I think that's a weak convincing argument. Even though it makes lockpicking look less mysterious, it still emphesized the fact that it could be used for evil.

Instead, I would reccommend having an open DISCUSSION with them about why you're interested in lockpicking. You can talk about the puzzle aspect of it, you can talk about how lockpicking forces you to imagine what's going on b/c you can't see it, you can talk about how it will improve your sense of touch and fine motor skills, how it can improve your concentration, or any other number of things. The argument of "well you can use a brick, too" will only work on weak-willed individuals and may not work on your parents.

I'll agree that my classmates are weak willed individuals, and they were all just calling me a thief for the sheer fun of it.
So it works with them.

[illusion]

I just said: "Dad, I need to borrow your credit-card to buy lockpicks"

I wish there was more need of convincing, but that was all...

it's funny... I've never actualy been prevented from doing anything in my life by my parents, but with that kind of attitude they had I didn't feel the need to do anything rebelious... I couldn't rebel because there was nothing to rebel against...

They are pretty smart, and only now can I thank them for having that attitude... I steered myself wrong a few times, but I had to make up my own mind regarding what was right and wrong, and because of this I feel it only improved me.

your parents will agree... show them round the forums if you wish... show them LSI... one day nobody will view this hobby with stereotypes, but it is not today - the best you can do is prove to them you have good intentions.

Good luck.

[jordyh]

I just said: "Dad, I need to borrow your credit-card to buy lockpicks"

I wish there was more need of convincing, but that was all...

it's funny... I've never actualy been prevented from doing anything in my life by my parents, but with that kind of attitude they had I didn't feel the need to do anything rebelious... I couldn't rebel because there was nothing to rebel against...

They are pretty smart, and only now can I thank them for having that attitude... I steered myself wrong a few times, but I had to make up my own mind regarding what was right and wrong, and because of this I feel it only improved me.

I think our parents have very similar ways of raising children.

[Raccoon]

Before you start asking your parents to buy lockpicks for you, ask them to buy you some locks. This shows a genuine interest in the lock itself-- not just the thing that opens them. Also, even if you did get some lockpicks, I'm sure your parents wouldn't want you practicing on any of the _important_ house locks.

Just make it a point to visit the lock & key isle at every hardware and general store you goto with your parents. Pick up every random padlock you find, and mutter to yourself "ah, a number three" (ie, Masterlock #3). This may be a bit of an act, but it'll still show a genuine interest in locks themselves, as opposed to an interest in theiving. For me, I've been picking up padlocks since I was 6 or 8. My parents knew it was a genuine interest, but I didn't realize it till much later.

[Eab]

Ah the familiar fear of asking my parents about picks. I wanted a set since sophmore year but didn't even bother asking since I knew the answer would be a stern no and it would be followed by a hail of suspecious questioning . I just put the thought aside and waited until college to start and used my room-mate's paypal account (I gave him cash) and sent it to my college address. An added bonus was my parents would never see me practicing or anything. That was five years ago, they still don't know and I don't see why they need to :/

If you are really desperate ask a friend if he can buy them for you or make your own. As for asking your parents, maybe nonchalantly show them a site that has videos of lock picking and casually say "That would be so sweet to own a set" Be prepared to defend your reasons. Then a few days later, again casually ask if you could buy a set, again be ready to say why.

[digital_blue]

This doc has helped to explain the hobby to parents in the past. Try printing it off and letting them have a read:

http://www.geocities.com/digital_blue_s ... pintro.pdf

Cheers!

db

[Woofcat]

How old are you? I just defied my parents at the time. I was 17 and now they are cool with it due to the ammount of time i waste in my room trying to open my locks.

I am not telling you to do this. Just what i did.

[Chrispy]

Sitting in your room picking locks v.s. Heading out to get drunk and do drugs off the bare naked breasts of a sex-crazed nymph.

I know what they'd rather you do.

[jordyh]

Sitting in your room picking locks v.s. Heading out to get drunk and do drugs off the bare naked breasts of a sex-crazed nymph.

I know what they'd rather you do.

The latter...

I'd love that.

[illusion]

Sitting in your room picking locks v.s. Heading out to get drunk and do drugs off the bare naked breasts of a sex-crazed nymph.

I know what they'd rather you do.

hmm... well cut out the drugs and I'm game...

[SFGOON]

I know what I rather I'd do!!!!