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Hi All! What about Skeleton Keys?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Hi All! What about Skeleton Keys?

Postby -DDay- » 21 Feb 2006 19:17

Hi guys, I'm new to the site and thought I'd introduce myself. I enjoy lockpicking cuz it gives me something to do. That being said, I'm not exactly familiar with the terms of lockpicking. Does anyone use the term skeleton key as a key that can open any lock in a few quick seconds? And what are your feelings on those?
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Postby illusion » 21 Feb 2006 19:26

Doesn't exist.
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Postby pizarro » 21 Feb 2006 19:40

If you mean one key that opens the different types of locks quickly and easily. They don't exist. You may be able to create a key that take advantage of featuress of how a type/model of lock has been created/developed.

Have a look at a key for a pin tumbler lock, and a key for a mortice/lever lock. If you can figure out how to create a tool that will open both these types of locks, please, PLEASE, let us know.

Lockpicking is a great skill, and fun to practice, the reason fot this is because of the different types of locks, and the subtle differences that you get within a single type of lock. Even locks that are the same make and model can have different subtle features, behaviours, and/or characteristics, between them.

Lockpicking will take more than your lifetime to truely master. Why do you think criminals go for the quicked and easier methods (i.e. smashing a window, cutting off the lock and/or chain, putting a gun to your head and saying OPEN IT!) I think you get the idea.
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Postby devildog » 21 Feb 2006 19:40

pretty much. skeleton keys only apply to warded locks. go to wikipedia.com and howstuffworks.com and look up warded locks, skeleton keys, and lock picking--howstuffworks.com has a really good basic explanation of how a pin tumbler lock works and how it's picked.
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Postby -DDay- » 21 Feb 2006 19:42

Sorry...by "any kind of lock" I meant cylinder lock. It has 2 spring-tension rods , one which presses against the pins and the other which forces it up by pushing on the bottom.
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Postby dazza » 21 Feb 2006 21:26

d-day if you are talking about a lock youve got take a picture so members
know what type of lock you mean.also you could check the search button
for the mit guide. whitch tells you about different locks and picking.
and the names to parts in a lock.

hope that helps? :D
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Postby Jason13 » 21 Feb 2006 21:29

Yes!!! all should search before they post a topic.



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Postby Shrub » 21 Feb 2006 21:42

Kettle meet pot.

Regardless of lock theres no such thing as a skeleton key.

The term originally came from a long time ago and was used with referance to warded locks,
If a working key was ground down until all the warding cuts were removed so the key became just the part that threw the bolt then it was known as a skeleton key as all the surrounding material had been removed leaving it the bare bones of the working key, this would then work in any other simular made lock.

This situation was eliminated by ptting levers in to the locks that needed to be lifted before the bolt could be thrown thus making skeleton keys redundant to a great extent.

To present day,
There are no magic keys for any locks, you can get master keys for some locks that have been made to except them but as for a key that will open any lock its simply not true.

The modern day equilivents are things like jiggler keys or computor generated keys but these are by no means magic keys and need some degree of skill and practice before they work on a selecion of locks.

I hope this helps.
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Postby pickin » 21 Feb 2006 21:52

Shrub wrote:
The modern day equilivents are things like jiggler keys or computor generated keys but these are by no means magic keys and need some degree of skill and practice before they work on a selecion of locks.



Dont ferget the bump keys bout the closest thing today to the skeleton key
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Postby mcm757207 » 22 Feb 2006 0:13

Here a link to a masterkey for most every mechanical lock convieved by man:
http://www.colli.com.au/Uploads/Images/PT-394-DeWalt-drill-DW987-K.jpg
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Postby spQQky » 22 Feb 2006 1:35

pickin wrote:Dont ferget the bump keys bout the closest thing today to the skeleton key

mcm151201 wrote:Here a link to a masterkey for most every mechanical lock convieved by man:

So with those two tools I may rule the world oneday? Oh, going to need fuel too. A KEbump for the key and a battery recharger for the Dewalt. :)
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Postby nezumi » 22 Feb 2006 12:18

Shrub wrote:Regardless of lock theres no such thing as a skeleton key.

The term originally came from a long time ago and was used with referance to warded locks,.


Wouldn't that mean that there is a such thing as a skeleton key, it's just useless for 99% of the locks in use nowadays?

I do remember some kid who saw the simpsons episode where someone is given the key to the city and it literally opens every door in the city. He thought that really existed. I had to laugh.
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Postby rayman452 » 22 Feb 2006 19:39

You mean the key that Chief Wiggims had in The Simpsons doesn't actually exsist and I can't become friends with Ralph to steal the key and go to the candy and toy shop? Life isn't fair.
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Postby Bahrg » 22 Feb 2006 20:00

Shrub wrote:Kettle meet pot.



:lol: :P :lol: So true.
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Postby dazza » 23 Feb 2006 1:09

shrub wrote
kettle meet pot


i also told him to read the mit guide so that he would learn
that there was no such a thing has skeeton key.
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