Shlage

by **pickin** » 21 Feb 2006 22:03

Well Ive become fairly good at picking all my master locks and the Kwicksets I own so I found a Shlage to try next.

I replaced a door knob set in the house that didn't really need a lock on it and disassembled the old hardware to get the cylinder out.

I really have to say this cylinder is leaps and bounds from a Kwickset cylinder. Much tighter tolerances and has been alot harder to pick. There are no security pins in it although I would have swore there was when i tried to pick it before taking it apart.

I have found that this lock has knocked me down a couple of pegs but I will prevail!!

Guess its back to the 1 pin 2 pin 3 pin 4 pin 5 approach again

Oh well wish me luck and as you Brits put it CHEERS!!!

by **jgencinc** » 21 Feb 2006 22:32

I feel the same way pickin. I opened evey master and kwikset I can get my hands on. Today I got an American series 2000. I feel like I've never opened a lock before. I would like to take some pin stacks out, but the way it's made I would have trouble putting it back together again. This one will make me a better picker.

by **Dartan** » 22 Feb 2006 9:40

I'm still working on picking my Schlage as well. I need to take the time to remove some of the pins (at least the spool pins) and start out that way. Looks like I need to make/get a plug follower. Though I was looking at my locks and it looks like I should be able to carefully slide out the plate holding the pin springs in and get the pins out that way. On the plus side it would make it easier to get the pins and springs back in, but does anybody know from experience if it really is?

Dave

by **nezumi** » 22 Feb 2006 12:22

Huh, I had the opposite problem. I started out with a Mag. I bought a schlage, but actually picked it by accident when just inserting my tools!! In retrospect, the key combination was something like 33322. I should have looked closer before I got it. I might go buy a second one with a more difficult combination (I didn't bother rekeying it, since I decided to return a lock that opens THAT easily).

by **raimundo** » 22 Feb 2006 12:59

look closely at your schlages, is there a symbol like ^ sorta, on the front? that would be an everest, a schlage varient that has one more trick, easily dealt with when you are aware its there, but if it says primus, you will want to put that aside, for later advanced picking. If neither of these marks are on it, do the pin drop count, it should be 5 or 6 pin, easy enough to pick when new, a bit harder if its all gummed up with old graphite. Someone asked me to open his shop last summer,he had lost his whole key ring, but his spare set was in the shop it was a schlage deadbolt, so gummed up that the pins made no sound dropping, if they did drop, it was unpickable, until some light oil was worked into the lock. Then it opened,

by **Dartan** » 22 Feb 2006 15:21

Mine is definately a Schlage (specifically bought Schalge brand at the hardware store). What's different if it has the ^ or is a primus? Is it just security pins, or does it have a sidebar (or something else)?

Dave

by **hzatorsk** » 22 Feb 2006 15:42

thank goodness... I though this was going to be another... "How do you pronounce.... posts!"

by **pickin** » 22 Feb 2006 21:36

well I'm up to 3 pins in the Schlage now seems to be getting easier each time. I'm really starting to feel the little nuances of picking a lock made with so much better tolerances hope to be at the full 5 pin point by the weekend.

Unfortunately my Schlage doesn't have any security pins in it so I'm going to have to go up to the hardware store soon and see about getting some.

Ive not noticed those symbol's on mine so Ill have to look around and see what I can come up with to eventually make it harder.

by **Wade** » 22 Feb 2006 23:03

Dartan wrote:Mine is definately a Schlage (specifically bought Schalge brand at the hardware store). What's different if it has the ^ or is a primus? Is it just security pins, or does it have a sidebar (or something else)?

Dave

the one with the ^ on it would be a Everest which has a checkpin that has to be lifted in order for the plug to turn. And the Primus ... is a very hard lock to pick. it has sidebar
check it oouuuut :arrow:

http://www.crypto.com/photos/locks.html (everest info)
good luck :wink:

by **Wade** » 22 Feb 2006 23:09

this too

http://professional.schlage.com/pdfs/literature/Cyls_Keys_and_Key_Control.pdf

by **Wade** » 22 Feb 2006 23:10

this too

http://professional.schlage.com/pdfs/literature/Cyls_Keys_and_Key_Control.pdf (primus stuff)

by **devnill** » 23 Feb 2006 1:00

i myself just got a few schlages, and have had the same experiences. i repinned a tumber to 3 pins, and its pretty hard for me. feeling the pins isnt the hard part for me, but its the ward on the left side that gets me, because it really restricts the picks movement.

by **Wade** » 23 Feb 2006 1:30

Wade wrote:this too http://professional.schlage.com/pdfs/literature/Cyls_Keys_and_Key_Control.pdf (primus stuff)

TWICE!!! wtf ? how'd that happen :shock:

by **pickin** » 23 Feb 2006 22:00

Well I have 3 pins down pretty well now working on 4.

Yes I also hate that ward right below the pins does make it a pain but also a challenge.

For me the worst part is the slanted part of the key way that my tension wrench sits in I get alot of false feeling every time the wrench slips a bit looks like its time for me to make a new custom fit wrench :twisted:

by **theif kid** » 24 Feb 2006 19:43

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