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A possibly not so new awesome lock

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What padlock is most common in your area?

master
24
56%
american
1
2%
tricircle
2
5%
yale
3
7%
eagle
0
No votes
abloy
1
2%
abus
7
16%
primus
1
2%
other (please post it)
4
9%
 
Total votes : 43

A possibly not so new awesome lock

Postby clayton1123 » 26 Mar 2006 20:15

Ok, I was out storing stuff at my rental shed and my neighbor has a lock that looked rather expensive so I had to look at it. Its key hole looked like an x and it had three sets of pins. It seems to me that this lock would be a very nice lock to buy because lockpicking thiefs would not want to even attempt picking it because it would be way too hard to pick. I like these locks and was curious were I would be able to buy them that is close to the U.S. and would be fairly cheap. I found a site that sells them in china. They dont mention the price of the lock though.
http://www.baoxinlock.com/cpjs01.htm
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Postby What » 26 Mar 2006 20:22

here ABA locks makes two versions, but no padlock ones 8)
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Postby What » 26 Mar 2006 20:30

two more from other manufacturers,

one

two

thou shalt learn to google.
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Postby What » 26 Mar 2006 21:47

ps, you forgot brinks
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Postby devildog » 26 Mar 2006 22:31

yeah, brinks should have been on there, it's usually second only to Master. I accidentally said 'other' because I thought you were talking about door locks :oops: . I would have said Master, by far the most popular around here. In fact, you don't see anything other than Master and it's various knock-offs (Brinks, Mountain Security, etc.) around here. On very rare occassion, you may see an American 700 where something really requires the highest security :roll: :lol: (the AM-700 isn't a bad lock, in fact it's a very nice lock for the $25-30 U.S. that's usually asked for it, but high-security I think not; not compared to Medeco, Mul-T-Lock, or Abloy).
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Postby jordyh » 27 Mar 2006 5:30

70% abus
30% tricircle

and poof!
You've described the dutch padlock market.

Yours,

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Postby clayton1123 » 27 Mar 2006 10:19

tri circle is a great lock in my opinion. The one I have has three spool pins in it and can be a pain to pick, even though it only has three pins!
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Postby Shrub » 27 Mar 2006 18:34

I bought a load of tricircle in all the differant sizes as quite a few on here said they were a difficult pick and a good lock so when a local place was selling there entire stock of them off due to a shut down i bought them up.

Crap locks that are very easy to pick, i went through 2 or 3 of each model picking them in around a minute and sometimes less before i decided i ddint want to use them as stock for the business so sold a load and plan to cut the others up to sell as cut aways.

The fact certain locks have spools in doesnt mean they are good locks nor hard to pick, a good well made lock with all normal pins in far out weighs a cheap lock with spoool pins in it.

Thats only my 2 cents though.
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Postby Chrispy » 28 Mar 2006 7:37

Lockwood, Kaba, BiLock, Abloy, Gainsborough, IR, Efco, Ilco, Carbine, Abus, some Federal padlocks, lots of generic crap from Bunnings or what not, and some out-of-towners like Weiser and Schlage. Actually, come to think of it, we get almost every kind of lock in at work.
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Re: A possibly not so new awesome lock

Postby greyman » 28 Mar 2006 8:25

clayton1123 wrote:[...] Its key hole looked like an x and it had three sets of pins. It seems to me that this lock would be a very nice lock to buy because lockpicking thiefs would not want to even attempt picking it because it would be way too hard to pick. [...]


Not sure if I agree with the assessment. Most cruciform locks, ie ones with 3 or 4 rows of pins, are quite easy to pick. Much more so than one would think. I wouldn't use a cruciform lock (and there are many brands including German and French, not just crappy ones typically made in Asia). The only exception to the rule would be in a safe with a deeply recessed keyway so you basically can't reach it with anything but the key.

With cruciform locks, you can easily tension on any one or two opposing sides, and because the pins are in one of the arms of the crosses, they are very accessible and the shape of the keyway guides the lock pick. Also because the cross has a small size, the lift on the pins is small, which again makes for easy picking. In short don't waste your money on a X lock, especially one made in China. It's a gimmick.

On the other hand, if you want some picking practice, go ahead and buy one :)
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Postby sams choice » 28 Mar 2006 12:32

here it seems like BEST IC padlocks are the favorite. That and i guess Yale.
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Postby Demonithese » 28 Mar 2006 16:08

here we have kwik ad surprisingly.. a lot of weslocks.
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Postby taylorgdl » 28 Mar 2006 19:44

Tri-circle seem to crop up far to often for me.

Had a large one on a farm the other day. No key, and almost rusted solid. It was holding a gate shut.

Picking, not likely, not in the state it was in. Lots of WD40 and left it for half an hour. ( free security survey !). Came back and shimmed the lock in 15 seconds or so.
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Postby quickpicks » 28 Mar 2006 19:47

Here we have EVERYTHING! there are even Medeco and abloy locks on garbage sheds :shock: Schlage and no name are some of the more common ones but there are so many different brands here...... at least 40
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 28 Mar 2006 23:32

LoL i live right outside of the city of Reading, 3 highest crime rate in U.S.A and murders to, can forget them :wink: But anyway all i see is masters there every where!! its rediculous they all surcome to a snowman. I have a few good friends that live on my block and when ever i catcht hem outside i ask to demonstrate how crappy there locks are, got about 10 neihbors so far, they were amased, so i told them about abus's and and such and my blocks security went up a little. But i still find it funny considering were i live the locks people use..walmart special.

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