Help Identifying a Lock

by **thequantaleaper** » 26 Mar 2006 22:40

I apologize for possibly talking too much here.. I think I must be just too excited about finally registering.

But anyways...

The lock I am trying to identify goes to a home security system that is about 30 years old or so... and the key that goes to it has a wierd configuration. The top of the key where the ridges are, has differently angled points. Some are perpendicular with the key, but others are at an angle... kinda triangular and jaged looking.

I don't plan to pick this one in the near future, and in any case I will probably get it in a few years when the alarms system is updated... but I would like a heads up on this type of high-security lock.

by **What** » 26 Mar 2006 22:42

can you post a picture of the key?

it sopunds a lot like the medeco biaxial where the cuts are at 3 different angles.

by **thequantaleaper** » 26 Mar 2006 23:01

Not the best example obviously, but it is the general idea. (I don't have the key with me)

by **What** » 26 Mar 2006 23:04

that is very similar to a biaxial key,

by **CapnCurry** » 26 Mar 2006 23:10

That looks *very* like a Medeco Biaxial key. The only other key I know that has angled cuts is an Emhart high-security key, but those have a series of notches cut into the bottom of the key spaced evenly with the bitting on the top.

The general consensus is that these locks *can* be picked, but it's definitely a non-trivial problem. I asked someone a while ago what tools he would use to pick one of these, and he said "a couple of good rakes, a bump key if you've got one, a short hook, and a Snickers bar."

"A Snickers bar?"

"Yeah. Because, when you're not going anywhere for a while..."

by **thequantaleaper** » 26 Mar 2006 23:18

lol

If there is one thing I have learned in regards to lockpicking... is that yes you may get many a lock open in record time and within a few seconds.. and some a couple minutes... but if you are really challenging yourself and working with the hard stuff, you can expect to be working for a while. It has become painfully difficult to force myself to keep working at it and keeping the thought of raking aside.

I just love this website and the information its members/admins have to offer. I am so glad I registered and have joined in. I look forward to years of sharing valuable education on here. Thanks to all who participate and ...

well...

Good Pickings!

by **Chucklz** » 27 Mar 2006 1:39

I doubt its an Emhart lock, surely the OP would have mentioned the cutouts on the bottom of the key if it were.

by **thequantaleaper** » 27 Mar 2006 1:46

I'm pretty sure its the Medeco biaxial... it has the same idea and I do remember there were a number of wards like in the picture that 'What' presented in the last post.

by **n2oah** » 27 Mar 2006 1:50

Kind of looks like a key for a DOM Diamant, but I don't know how or why it would be on a security system in the US. It's a biaxial for sure then.

by mh » 30 Mar 2006 15:21

n2oah wrote:Kind of looks like a key for a DOM Diamant, but I don't know how or why it would be on a security system in the US. It's a biaxial for sure then.

And not 30 years old... I believe DOM introduced the Diamant in 2001.

BTW n2oah, I couldn't find a thread on the high security lock in your signature, can you point me to that?

by **illusion** » 30 Mar 2006 15:27

It could be the Chubb M3... but that doesn't figure considering the age...

I seem to remember Medeco had some legal pursuit a while back, but don't quote me on this please...

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