Shrub wrote:Thats a home made version, theres only one commercial version at the momnet i think and its very expensive.
I know, but all the references to it I saw used pretty blurry pictures and the pic on the toool.nl site was the first closeup of the business end I saw that's why I asked. I actually guessed it might be DIY because an item with a price tag like that should look a bit cleaner. But for DIY I think it is a pretty nice job...
The tool is wasted on non security locks as the time to use it out wieghs the time you would normally pick it in.
Really? What do you consider non-security locks? Being a relative newbie a standard europrofile with 2 spool pins can set me back pretty much. So, is a lock like that non-security in your book? Or is non-security defined as 5 or 6 pins and no special pins. In that case I agree, I'd probably have that one open before the Sputnik is ready for action. But at least here in Germany, these locks with no special pins are non-existant, because the DIN specifications demand at least two spool-type pins (Vortäuschung von mindestens zwei Sperrebenen
For the higher security cylinders theres a differant way to do it with a differant tool that is not only easier to use but also less random.
Again, what is a higher security pin tumbler cylinder in your book? Also, why do you say that using a Sputnik is a random thing? From the theory and a video I saw it is pretty straightforward, you focus on each pin once until it is set, then on to the next. I am not sure if the correct binding order has to be established beforehand or not, but I suppose so. Nevertheless, what is random about that? And my fingers are itching to ask about that different way and the different tool but my neurons say this is prolly advanced stuff, am I right?
Sputniks are fun to make with syringe needles and modified keyblanks useing guitar strings but youll give up after making one and just not bother with it, great idea but not great in use.
Might be, can judge that now. But for me, understanding and brainstorming about all the different tools that can be used to manipulate a lock seems to be more interesting than actually opening locks themselves. Making the tools, modifying the locks, etc. It is weird, once I read about Bogotas I made some really quick. After the first few openings I lost interest in that and made myself some copys of HPC computergenerated picks. They ended up sub-optimum and right now I am refining the layouts using a slotted cylinder. On the back burner are projects regarding foil impressioning. Maybe I am just too lazy and impatient to train my pin-by-pin skills and therefore am looking for the holy grail of pintumbler lock opening... and once I have that I will have to move on to dimple locks or something else
The holes can be 1mm by the way and theres no problem in drilling those, i would go as far to say youll perhaps need to go so far as a 1.2-1.5mm dia which can be done with a electric drill even, in the world of precision engineering 1mm is massive.
Hmmm. Drilling a 1mm hole sounds easy, unless you are trying to do that to the blade of a keyblank. Bigger hole sounds good, because it allows screw up a little regarding the exact pin spacing distances. The problem I with that, if the needle has lots of room to move around in the hole, it might just decide to slip off the pin tip. The needle is bent, you can't actually get it to really push down on the pin vertically, so I think that might be a problem. But then again, while thinking I always forget about the dimension ranges locks operate within. It might work. I think I need to go to a DIY tool store tonight...
