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 by Pic-king » 10 Apr 2006 17:54
ok... im new to picking pin tumblers, and i can rake one or 2 open...i struggle with some though...maybe they have security pins, but i don't know what they are, so i wouldn't know... i can rake locks open, but i can't pick them to save my life... how do i find each lever, and find where they have to stop? i can pick from the front, but i can't get past low levers, so... also i can't tell whether it's picked, or the pin isn't past the shear line. PLEASE HELP!!!
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by p1ckf1sh » 11 Apr 2006 6:05
Pic-king wrote:ok... im new to picking pin tumblers, and i can rake one or 2 open...i struggle with some though...maybe they have security pins, but i don't know what they are, so i wouldn't know... i can rake locks open, but i can't pick them to save my life... how do i find each lever, and find where they have to stop? i can pick from the front, but i can't get past low levers, so... also i can't tell whether it's picked, or the pin isn't past the shear line. PLEASE HELP!!!
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Check this post, it contains some info on how to positively identify correctly set pins - same procedure as in the MIT guide, but maybe a different explanation helps you along.
Regarding the low levers, you have to experiment with angle of pick insertion and different pick shapes. Or make your own picks that suit your picking style.
Regarding set pins and overset pins - there are differences in the noise they make when clicking back. Learn to identify these. Set pins that you know positively to shear line and let them click back. Then deliberately overset them and let them click back. Note the difference (for my euro locks, the overset click is sharper and louder, the correctly set click is not as loud and just different in onset).
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by Pic-king » 12 Apr 2006 18:09
lol picking style? lol - with me, its more of a raking stlye  i go to a shooting club, and theres a locksmith there im starting to talk to about picking them because, as i said in my intro, i only just got serious with lock picking... but rather than picking them, im running the rake through it and relying on luck...but ive been given a 7 lever dimple lock...struggling with it lol -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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by strangedream » 17 Apr 2006 16:44
Pic-king wrote:ok... im new to picking pin tumblers, and i can rake one or 2 open...i struggle with some though...maybe they have security pins, but i don't know what they are, so i wouldn't know... i can rake locks open, but i can't pick them to save my life... how do i find each lever, and find where they have to stop? i can pick from the front, but i can't get past low levers, so... also i can't tell whether it's picked, or the pin isn't past the shear line. PLEASE HELP!!!
are you picking a lever or pin tumbler lock?
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by horsefeathers » 17 Apr 2006 17:33
My gripe with this young man, reading this and other posts of his, is that he seems to put no effort in trying to learn. All the information is to be found by searching but he still refers to pin tumblers as having levers in them.
pic-king - Your profile states 'skiving school' as occupation. I know it is not serious as such, but as you say..."i only just got serious with lock picking" you need to put some serious learning, time and effort in. There is no magic wand, no single technique in a sentence that will open all locks. Do your homework!
Here endeth the lesson!
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by Shrub » 17 Apr 2006 18:04
Skiving school and yet a member of a gun club?? i think not unless your an 18 year old throw back which then again you may well be after your first postings.
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by quicklocks » 17 Apr 2006 18:13
he could quite legaly be a member of a air rifle or air pistol club so we can't realy dig at him for that comment 
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by Shrub » 17 Apr 2006 18:53
I didnt think there were such clubs so i guess im wrong or could be wrong, thats fair enough comment.
I guess im still a little edgy after the first set of posts that were made.
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by Pic-king » 23 Apr 2006 12:25
lol its not air rifle... its .22 - real guns lol - these are the things they would take to world wars if the technology was there
lol in fact... the shooting range was actually a bomb shelter lol - someone bought a rifle ages ago and needed somewhere he could legally shoot it... so he bought it and turned it into a range... then aded more guns and members... lol i have my own underlever rifle! (on my dads license...ill get a license and put it on mine when i get a chance )
secondly, im english...i don't know about lock picking terms over there, but in a pin tumbler, the parts you are picking are levers... ie. you have a 5 lever lock... some people call them tumblers though... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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by illusion » 23 Apr 2006 12:44
in a pin tumbler, the parts you are picking are levers
Hang on... WTF is this all about?!?!?!
On a pin tumbler, the parts you are picking are pins.
On a lever tumbler, the parts you are picking are levers.
On a wafer tumbler, the parts you are picking are wafers...
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Are you catching my drift?
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