Buying 999 keys

by **Tostitos** » 22 Apr 2006 2:48

I'm planning on buying a set along with a Kebump, and I can't really find anywhere. Not interested in visiting any of the crusty local curmudgeon locksmiths.

http://www.hawleylocksupply.com/Merchan ... t_Code=KNP

They sell only to locksmiths, apparently. I would like to be able to find out if the locks on my family's houses are secure or not, without having to go get a locksmithing school diploma.

Anyone got any tips? Will Omi throw in a top 10 set with his Kebump for a small added charge?

by **horsefeathers** » 22 Apr 2006 4:15

Strange - first post and simply wants bump keys. No apparent intention of learning locksmithing, picking techniques etc. Simply wants to know if house locks are secure? - yeah right!

Am i being too cynical?

regards

by **mrhappy** » 22 Apr 2006 7:06

Just make your own if you really want to try, its honestally not all that exciting though. Picking is where the challenge is. Im still soo soo green.

by **Tostitos** » 22 Apr 2006 13:14

I'm asking this because it's the only question I came to this forum with that couldn't be answered by using the search feature.

Sorry if some people are cynical.

I did make one of my own. The problem is, I'm afraid it was too poorly made to work, and that it might damage my lock.

by **LockNewbie21** » 22 Apr 2006 16:04

Ok bud i am going to assume that you as you say just want to check the actual integrity of the lock on your house. Ok that goods becuase saftey is a a good thing however! You must understand that criminals will not use and kind of lock picking implement to gain entry to your house. Why? well first of all they dont have time to learn or dont want to they just want your tv. Second, there in it to get money not loss it if they have any at all so buying lock picks would put them in debt even more. So mostly they use the best criminal wepon of all...there foot, or a hammer or th efamous drill, or just open the door because someone left it open. So dont rely soley on locks for protection, try to concentrate on the integrity of the door frame and windows and all places a thief would try and get it. I hope i helped you i dont want to flame you as know one else did, but you must understand there suspicions. Also if you you would like a good rundown of you lock with out calling a locksmith post a pic of the lock and the key, then i am sure somebody on here can tell you its effectivness against picking and such based on the lock and the way the key is cut.

Andy

by **Tostitos** » 22 Apr 2006 17:35

So? I'm asking a legit forum because I'm a legit person. I don't doubt that there's more dodgy places or people who could have pointed me on my way in a jiffy, but that's not what I'm interested in.

If I wanted to break into places, I'd use a pry bar, not a bump key.

I don't see what's wrong with my interest.

by **illusion** » 22 Apr 2006 18:02

Where are you living?

If you are in the UK, fit a British Standard lever lock on your door - these can't be bumped.. ever... and are hard to pick as well.

by **vector40** » 22 Apr 2006 18:44

I'm going to answer the question you asked.

Unless your home is fitted with some very unusual and high-security locks, if you're using pin tumblers (read: if you're in the US), your locks can be bumped. However, this is almost certainly a non-issue in terms of security.

by **maxxed** » 23 Apr 2006 0:25

Tostitos wrote:I'm asking this because it's the only question I came to this forum with that couldn't be answered by using the search feature.

Sorry if some people are cynical.

I did make one of my own. The problem is, I'm afraid it was too poorly made to work, and that it might damage my lock.

I would like to point out that even a properly made bump key can damage your lock, excessive force and repeated use take a toll on the cylinder. Practice on locks that you do not depend on to lock your door

by **vjbeau** » 23 Apr 2006 1:44

Not interested in visiting any of the crusty local curmudgeon locksmiths.

Tostitos,

You certainly know how to make friends fast.
You're in the wrong place if that's your opinion of locksmiths dude!!

I see you only want to test the integrity of your house locks. Hmmmm

I'm glad that Hawley only sells to locksmiths to keep out the riff raff. Besides..you know how us locksmiths are.....

by **LockNewbie21** » 23 Apr 2006 2:41

Haha burning your bridges before there built huh boy? Well this may only be a forum but with an attitude like yours you will never be anything. You should be glad that the kind people in this forum have responded as nicely as they have if it were me you would be banned, do us all here a favor, leave dont come back and the best of luck with your future indever's in tryin to be a criminal as thats my major in college criminology, and if you plan to be a big tough guy as you portrayed in here you wont last long, by the way dont expect a big WE MISS YOU CARD curtiousy of LP101 when your in jail. I speak for all the people as if they has said it already your a joke, leave here, bump your locks but when your caught, dont say we didnt tell you so.

Your friend Andy :wink:

by **vector40** » 23 Apr 2006 4:55

To be fair... there really are some curmudgeonly locksmiths, just as there's curmudgeonly everything. I don't think he was suggesting that locksmiths as a trade and as a rule are no good.

by **illusion** » 23 Apr 2006 4:58

Okay... being nasty is easy, so I'll try diplomacy...

To be fair Tostitos made a valid question that makes sense - I'd be worried that my house and those I cared about (yeah I know...) were easily bypassable. I guess it would also makes sense to show them their locks can be bumped so they buy better locks. I have no issue with this.

Then again there's the "Wait, could be be trying to break into peoples' houses?" This leaves us with a dilemna as to trust him or not.

The guy has been given some useful info and if he had come back with justification it would have been great, alas.

Come on guys, and girls! let's just ignore this kind of stuff and keep picking. No need to lock this thread really, since it's pretty much dead.

Cheers.

by **Tostitos** » 23 Apr 2006 21:05

I fail to see how the accurate description of my local locksmiths (old, grumpy, curmudgeony) reflects on any of you at all.

by **datagram** » 23 Apr 2006 22:59

Tostitos, you aren't going to find bumpkeys for sale.

Your best bet would be to make them, and that is a fairly straightforward process. Just hand file + key and you're good to go.

Quite frankly, no one has to balls to see if they can do it without getting thrown in prison. Most states will frown on the seller of such tools, not the buyers (much in the same way that it's more-so-illegal to sell drugs than to buy them).

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