Lock Jammed?

by **Ineffable** » 10 May 2006 1:22

Hi, I am semi new here I have been reading the forums for a month or so but am just now registering. *waves*

Anyways, to my quesion, I have encountered this problem with both a quickset deadbolt and a design house deadbolt. I have searched the forums and cant seem to find anything helpful.

I picked the locks, then when I go to lock them back (using a pick) it turns 180 degrees then stops. You cant turn it using the lever/handle (sorry dont know the exact name) and the key wont even enter the lock. From what I have gathered on other posts I am thinking it might be the pins have set in the bottom of the lock but I tried correcting it according to those posts and it doesnt work. I have also tried pushing all the pins up, and pounding on it because at first I thought it was just a stuck pin but neither worked. Any ideas on how to solve this, last time I had to take the lock apart. I am also curious as to what causes this and how to stop it.

by **keysman** » 10 May 2006 1:58

sounds like the top pins dropped into the plug.
Take your hook and use the flat back of it and push ALL the top pins back up at the same time, while putting a little turning pressure on the plug.
you should be good to go as soon a the plug turns

by **Ineffable** » 10 May 2006 14:47

Pins are stuck, do I just kinda have to force it?

by **illusion** » 10 May 2006 15:07

No, do what keysman said!

Insert a wrench into the BOTTOM of the keyway and press DOWN. Turn the plug when you have pressed down and it will turn... I fail to see how you did not understand keysman's explanation.

by **Shrub** » 10 May 2006 15:21

Oh come on you should now the answer to that one with your understanding of words, its because hes 'ineffable'! he needs a video to tell him :lol:

by **illusion** » 10 May 2006 15:23

by **Ineffable** » 10 May 2006 17:25

I guess I should be more specific, the pins wont budge they are stuck.

by **Shrub** » 10 May 2006 17:34

When you say you pounded it do you mean you put the key in and hit it? if so youve likely damaged the lock so it needs stripping down.

Otherwise as said the top pins have entered the bottom of the keyway and need to be pressed back into the chambers for the plug to rotate again.

by **chrisjc33** » 11 May 2006 1:47

here nice and easy

by **maxxed** » 11 May 2006 2:32

Perhaps we should start instructing newbies to turn cylinders with a key filed flat to a depth lower than a 9 cut so that the top pins cannot stick in the bottom of the keyway. Pick the lock, turning the plug a few degrees, then insert turning key and use it to opperate the mechanism.

by **jordyh** » 11 May 2006 4:20

"Pick, insert bump key, turn."

Somehow, i think that'll make matters worse...

Yours,
Jordy

by **Shrub** » 11 May 2006 7:28

Just tell them not to rotate the plug 180' theres no need to, they shouldnt be picking locks they are useing and practise locks dont usually have all the hardware attached to them.

Jordy is not a bump key as that may not fit, its like a key blank but the height is uniformly below a 9 cut, basically a 4mm high blank if you will but i agree it complicates matters a bit and noobs wont have a blank laying around either but it was a good and fair point.

by **jordyh** » 11 May 2006 7:54

Yeah, i guess you're right shrub, on my side it's all assumptions about bump keys, they fit the lock and are small.

I apologise for assuming too much though.

Yours,

Jordy

by **Shrub** » 11 May 2006 7:57

Its not that, its the fact that with them still having the peaks on they wouldnt fit in a picked lock :wink:

by **maxxed** » 13 May 2006 1:12

When I'm on the job I will always use a cut down keyblank to turn cheap deadbolts that I believe are master keyed, this prevents thin master pins from dropping into the open bottom of the keyway. This means I have a cut down Schlage L ( Schlage is not cheap but many knock off's are ), Kwickset, and Y1 keys in my pick pouch. Thats not a lot to carry

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