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Thinking of putting spools in my Kwiksets

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Thinking of putting spools in my Kwiksets

Postby lockedin » 15 May 2006 18:05

By now I know how vulnerable Kwiksets really are. I've been toying with the idea of putting spools in the ones in my home to beef them up. My questions are: How many and in where (meaning in which pin #(s)) should I put them to maximize security? Thanks in advance.
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Postby illusion » 15 May 2006 18:15

Positions 2,3,4, and 5. :)

Are your locks at risk of being picked to gain entry, or is this 'just in case'?

Edited by me - simple spelling error and boredom.
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Postby lockedin » 15 May 2006 18:19

Just in case, because I think most criminals would use brute force or a window anyway. However, I did get stirred out of my complacency very recently:

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Postby Mr. Lock Pick » 16 May 2006 23:14

i would put spool pins in all the pins.. :D ive done it and its hard to pick.
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Postby cracksman » 16 May 2006 23:23

Put at least one standard pin, all spools can mess up key alignment and cause wear. If you want to pin it tough pin it 0,7,0,7,0 (can't remember the Macs for kwikpicks but it is something like that.)

p.s. If you have any windows in your home unalarmed then leave your door unlocked, why replace all your goodies plus a broken window ;)
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Postby Jason13 » 17 May 2006 10:18

Why not just one serrated pin?
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Postby Vincent-XXI » 17 May 2006 18:21

Serrated pins still have notchs in them, so the lock could still be suffer excessive wear and tear, it would still allow the keyway to turn several degress with no key inserted.
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Postby Wolfman » 17 May 2006 21:50

The Macs for kwikset is 4

Thats regular pins... so says my Lab pinning kit.
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Postby lockedin » 17 May 2006 22:18

Thanks for the help you guys, that pretty much answers my questions (and a few others) :D .
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Postby zeke79 » 17 May 2006 22:40

Seriously, I never bash a lock. But putting spools in a Kwikset??? That is like putting a wax job on a turd isn't it?
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Postby lockedin » 18 May 2006 14:54

Perhaps, but it is an inexpensive way (rather than buying a new lock) of improving the security (even if just a little) of my locks.
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Postby Bahrg » 19 May 2006 2:02

Jason13 wrote:Why not just one serrated pin?


I dunno I swear these things make no difference to picking at all.
Cause if they catch you in the back seat
Trying to pick her locks,
They're gonna send you back to mother
In a cardboard box. (Gilmour, Waters)
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Postby pinsetter » 22 May 2006 9:38

I have a kwikset titan 6 pin deadbolt, and just to see the difference it made to picking I placed 3 spool pins from a different lock in the Kwikset. It made it much harder to pick. It doesn't make the lock any stronger by any means, but it makes it a lot harder to pick for sure, and is good for practice.

Of course, the titan isn't a lock I'm using on anything. It's just a cylinder in my practice box. I have that and a whole bunch of different pins and springs and use it to set up different keyings to practice on.
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