Need some help

[Sammy]

well. i made my own tools, which is a screw driver filed down all the way to 2-2.5 of 32 of an inch i filed it down so that it looks more like a ramp (kinda like a airodynamic airplane wing... But, forsome reason i cant seem to turn the lock that im picking (testing out the pick) even though im sure that each pin is loose, im just using a 1 sized metric allen wrench, so im having some grip probs, but i shouldnt be pulling that hard...

HELP!

[Sammy]

bahh i cant edit it allen wrench used as the tention

[digital_blue]

It's hard to say, but reading your post, I'm not entirely sure you've got the theory behind lock picking totally figured out just yet. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting what you're saying tho. When you say you can't seem to "turn the lock", I presume you mean you can't get the "plug" to turn. I may be telling you something you already know here, but I'll go for it anyway in the hopes that it helps:

You will not be able to turn the plug, but for a very very small amount, until the lock is successfully picked. The purpose of the tension wrench is just to apply tension on the pins, causing one of them to bind. Your next step, while applying light tension, is to figure out which pin is binding, lift it until you feel it "click" as the driver pin crosses the shear line and gets stuck, and simultaneously transfers that binding pressure to another pin. While all the while still maintaining light tension, you need now find the new binding pin, and repeat.

So, to summarize:

1) Apply tension
2) Find binding pin
3) Lift to shear line and feel "click"
4) Find new binding pin
5) Repeat steps 3 and 4 as needed

Hope that clears it up. If I've missed the point, perhaps clarify the question.

Cheers!

db

[Sammy]

heres the tool it needs work... any advice?
http://www.photodump.com/viewer/Mr.S/.html

umm but ya, i know all that stuff already... just that my lock wont give... when all of the pins drop. brand : ezset (kmart brand haha)

[cracksman]

check your link mate.....

[digital_blue]

Again, I'm confused a bit by this:

"When all the pins drop"

It could just be a matter of terminology here, but what are we talking about here?

Here's what I know:

1) If your tension wrench is working well enough to bind pins, it should be working well enough to turn the plug once all pins are set.
2) It is *possible* that you are in fact setting all pins, but as you start to rotate, your wrench is getting jammed and stopping the plug from turning. If this is the case, just pull the wrench out and turn it with something else.
3) It is possible (though unlikely) that you have a spool pin in there. You would know this because the plug would rotate about 10 degrees, then get stuck.

That's all I've got.

db

[Sammy]

heres the link

i need advice on how to fix the tool, i found that it doesnt seem to get the pin just right

[Sammy]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/s ... 06014d.jpg

[digital_blue]

Is that the pick or the tension wrench?

[Vincent-XXI]

If I understand his post, that would be his pick...

i made my own tools, which is a screw driver filed down all the way to 2-2.5 of 32 of an inch i filed it down so that it looks more like a ramp (kinda like a airodynamic airplane wing... But, forsome reason i cant seem to turn the lock that im picking (testing out the pick) even though im sure that each pin is loose, im just using a 1 sized metric allen wrench,

Allen wrench and screwdriver, I'd imagine hes using the wrench as a source of tension and the screwdriver as the picking tool, assuming hes picknig them in a standard fashion. Its not uncommon to hear of bobby pin picks with a screwdriver tensioning the lock, but this is the first time I've heard of tiring to pick with a screwdriver.



That tool is long and flat, search for "pick templates" to give you an idea of different shape picks, diamonds and hooks will allow you to interact with one pin at a time something that a long flat piece of metal can't do as well if at all. Rakes allow for different tecchnique the half diamond works reasonably well this way to. Your going to have to buy proper tools, or remake that to have any measure of success.

[LockNewbie21]

Hmm a homebrewer good goodddddd(rubs hands together)


Just go to the dump pick up some thin oil dip sticks pay a visit to shrubs pick making thread (stickied) and check out pyro's video that will help you out a bunch.


ANdy