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pickguns and snapguns ruin locks?

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pickguns and snapguns ruin locks?

Postby darrel.h » 7 Jun 2006 16:20

Hello all,

I have heard a rumor that snapguns and pickguns ruin locks over time as oppose to manual picking. Are these rumors true? I know that bumpkeys can ruin locks if used excessively. Snapguns and pickguns rely on nearly the same principle. Any truth to this?
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Postby Shrub » 7 Jun 2006 18:50

Yes, they destroy them, use once to open the door and dont prolong that one use.

They will happily 'file' down the bottom of the pins quite rapidly.

A manual gun also does it but not as fast obviously.
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Postby Octillion » 7 Jun 2006 19:24

They can also pop off pin caps from the top of cylinders.
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Postby darrel.h » 7 Jun 2006 20:07

So basically, use manual picking to practice and pickguns to open quickly.
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Postby digital_blue » 7 Jun 2006 20:48

Let's not forget the over-compressed springs and/or broken springs. Actually, even prolonged manual picking will cause wear on a lock.

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Postby lockedin » 9 Jun 2006 21:00

I have used my snap gun on the same locks for a couple of years now. It isn't like I'm going at it for hours, but the average kwikset and mountain security locks can take a great deal of punishment from snap guns without affecting the the functioning of the key or lock significantly. So I wouldn't worry about it too much if you're just going to practice a bit.
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Postby bpc293 » 10 Jun 2006 21:10

im glad i read this i have a electric pick gun guess im lucky i dont use it i felt like i was cheating. i will just use it if i have to.
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Postby ysr50speed » 12 Jun 2006 23:18

I have used pick guns over and over on the same lock and never had a problem with the lock.
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Postby oaksy » 13 Jun 2006 6:08

Im sorry but as Shrub said they do wear the lock down very quick over time... :wink:
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 14 Jun 2006 0:10

So basically, use manual picking to practice and pickguns to open quickly
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No if you don't know how to use it it will not open liek magic, and you will probobly ruin the lock, the guns suck anyway they take the fun and professionalism out of the sport/profession manula picking done right has little to no pin damage... that's why i am selling mine.



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Postby oaksy » 14 Jun 2006 6:48

Yes they do take the fun out of it alittle, but the guns are great back up tool..I think you are making a bad judge on selling yours... :wink:
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 14 Jun 2006 8:09

Nope becuase i am gettin another free one once i finish my folley course :D I was a little tired they are okay if you can keep them to a minimun, they open quicksets, and will open my 5 pin 4 spool schlage.. but i only need one click for a false set then i just manual pick it, they are good back up i will agree i will take it to lock outs as a starter once i get a lockie job, so maybe we should say if used wrong or over used they can be bad, becuase on all my pratice locks i keep the snaps to about 3 at the most per opening, and when i go to repin them there is no damage, an dthey key works fine. I was tired last night and a bit grumpy so i jumped to conclusions.. hope this is a better answere :D cya fellas



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Postby Def-Con » 19 Jun 2006 7:56

dont use pickguns on wafer locks.
They will be destroyed in no time.
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Postby illusion » 19 Jun 2006 7:59

Def-Con wrote:dont use pickguns on wafer locks.
They will be destroyed in no time.


Oh yes... just pick the darn things - hardly killer locks, mostly (Yes I know AVA are an example, but you 'aint using a snapper on those :wink: )
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Postby Shrub » 19 Jun 2006 8:00

Well a wafer lock has nothing to bounce so to even try one on such a lock shows the user shouldnt have a EPG or manual one to begin with.
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